If you want to remain on topic, consider revisiting the following points which you have not addressed:

You "need" to provide an(y) example of a camp that "needs" a Shaman to substantiate your claim that you can name multiple camps that "need" a Shaman.

You also "need" to provide evidence that supports your tens/dozens/hundreds/thousands of posts in this thread in which you claimed that Shaman can/does improve group's a DPS (more than a non-epic Mage can/does) by root rotting multiple mobs parallel to the group.

I'm not sure if you've forgotten about these things that you claimed - if so, feel free to refresh your memory at any time by re-reading as the post history is clear and visible to all. You're simply not going to get away with making baseless, unsubstantiated claims. It's really not a good look for you.

I am glad we agree Enchanter/Shaman/Monk is a strong combo. If you knew how this combo worked, you would know removing the Monk does not diminish the power of the Enchanter/Shaman for this four person group.

You can keep pretending otherwise to dodge this, but everybody can see it. You concede every time you dodge like this.

You can keep attempting to dodge the below, but everybody can see it. You concede every time you dodge like this. Hehe. :)

You "need" to provide an(y) example of a camp that "needs" a Shaman to substantiate your claim that you can name multiple camps that "need" a Shaman.

You also "need" to provide evidence that supports your tens/dozens/hundreds/thousands of posts in this thread in which you claimed that Shaman can/does improve group's a DPS (more than a non-epic Mage can/does) by root rotting multiple mobs parallel to the group.

I'm not sure if you've forgotten about these things that you claimed - if so, feel free to refresh your memory at any time by re-reading as the post history is clear and visible to all. You're simply not going to get away with making baseless, unsubstantiated claims. It's really not a good look for you.

ENC / CLR is better than ENC / SHM

Change my mind

Here are the strengths of Shaman/Enchanter:

https://project1999.com/forums/showp...postcount=4843

Do the same for Enchanter/Cleric please.

I remain unconvinced

ENC / CLR still better

Thank you for conceding, you cannot back up your claims. You can of course have whatever opinion you want, but it doesn't mean you are correct.

I concede nothing

ENC/ CLR clearly better

Your 'arguments' remain unpersuasive

I have an argument that I can point to. You do not. Thank you for the concession.