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nilbog 01-16-2014 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Talawen (Post 1277799)
so in theory it would look something like this?

http://i.imgur.com/7NPdaNE.jpg

or could you actually force the 800x600 UI at that point on to someone?
That ^ with the spell book element as well. I don't see forcing a 800x600 ui until we have a legit classic UI to use.

nilbog 01-16-2014 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by fastboy21 (Post 1277782)
casters are very powerful in classic EQ...two of the big reasons to not play a caster in classic were having to be vulnerable while medding (not yet implemented) and manually memming your spells (this has been implemented, no more saved spell lists).

staring at the spellbook wasn't just an immersion thing. it actually affected game play. you were effectively blind if you wanted to med up faster. this affected your ability to solo in certain places and also required you to trust group mates if you were grouping.

getting jumped by a mob as you med (full damage from sitting) can almost kill a low lvl caster in many zones.

while i agree that removing it was a thing that made EQ better in the long run (why the eventually removed it on live) it was a real part of the game balancing for casters imo in classic.
Totally agree with this. PVE and PVP.

Skittlez 01-16-2014 04:57 PM
If the devs add this back in they're gonna piss off a lot of people. All because boohoo it's not classic without it. At the VERY most the devs should allow as an option that can be toggled with a / command or a checkbox in the options for all you titty babies that actually want this dumb shit.

Rooj 01-16-2014 05:04 PM
If you don't want classic EQ, why are you here?

nilbog 01-16-2014 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Skittlez (Post 1277836)
..piss..boohoo..not classic..option../command..checkbox..titty babies..dumb shit.
I understand your opinions/concern, but it is irrelevant to my personal interest.

Provided we had the means to launch a fully classic server in 2009, that's what we would have done.

Thulack 01-16-2014 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by fastboy21 (Post 1277782)
casters are very powerful in classic EQ...two of the big reasons to not play a caster in classic were having to be vulnerable while medding (not yet implemented) and manually memming your spells (this has been implemented, no more saved spell lists).

staring at the spellbook wasn't just an immersion thing. it actually affected game play. you were effectively blind if you wanted to med up faster. this affected your ability to solo in certain places and also required you to trust group mates if you were grouping.

getting jumped by a mob as you med (full damage from sitting) can almost kill a low lvl caster in many zones.

while i agree that removing it was a thing that made EQ better in the long run (why the eventually removed it on live) it was a real part of the game balancing for casters imo in classic.
Or you just use Hide or Invise while medding.

Skittlez 01-16-2014 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rooj (Post 1277844)
If you don't want classic EQ, why are you here?
It's got more than enough classic for me, breh. This game doesn't need one of its worst additions added back in to it.

Rooj 01-16-2014 05:15 PM
When I heard about this server, I didn't think to myself, "Oh man, I hope this is classic EQ without all the 'annoying' things like book medding, hybrid penalties, and Luclin UI." I, like Nilbog, want a server that is as much like classic EQ as absolutely possible. I would love to have the classic UI. I was fairly turned off when I found out it was sort of impossible.

I don't see why this would "piss so many people off," book medding was only up to level 35 anyway. Getting to 35 is not hard.

Rooj 01-16-2014 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Skittlez (Post 1277870)
It's got more than enough classic for me, breh. This game doesn't need one of its worst additions added back in to it.
Yes but what you and I want doesn't matter, this is Nilbog's server. If he figures out a way to implement this, you had best start getting used to it - cause it will be coming.

fastboy21 01-16-2014 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Thulack (Post 1277854)
Or you just use Hide or Invise while medding.
Yes.

You were required to take special precautions, actions, and make considerations because of the effect that medding (i.e. staring at the book blinding you) had on actual game play.

I would hardly say that hide/invis makes being blind while medding an obsolete risk, but yes...those would be some of the extra precautions you might take to protect yourself as a caster (if you have access to them). There are others as well.


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