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marie 03-27-2014 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HippoNipple (Post 1385153)
Quido every 3 team situation is going to end up 2v1. It will never be a royal rumble. It will never be completely evenly matched for 3 different teams. The number 1 and 2 guilds will always gun for each other and the under dog is the wild card that decides what they get out of helping one of the other teams. It is common sense.

lets see sev about a week ago, nihilum v red dawn v azrael.

azrael engaged nihilum during the process red dawn took sev and ported out.

perfect example how you are dead wrong

heartbrand 03-27-2014 11:41 AM

Azrael has no plan for Velious other than to "get giant faction and grief Nihilum".

Protip: You can pull Tormax to zoneline and giant faction is meaningless

I have no interest in being in an officer council guild with people uninterested in slaying dragons in Velious. Sry dawg.

HippoNipple 03-27-2014 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by marie (Post 1385148)
I dont really feel all that much bad blood between us. I didnt believe in your vision to be political with nihilum. I want to kill them all and take their pixels from them, not share them. Ever since azrael got even numbers with Nihilum, we have been winning every fight and taking every raid mob we wanted. Cant even use the excuse nizzar isnt around things will change etc because he was around when the shit stomping began. Would support your application to azrael if you ever were interested. people need to let the past go and realize people grow and change overtime. Not everybody stays the same forever, i believe in 2nd or even 3 chances.

No one is ever going to agree with every decision the leader makes. Did you think HB made decisions that he thought was best for the guild? Do you think he cared about the members success? Do you think he added value with playtime, accounts and pixels to his members? Did he have knowledge of PvE encounters?

Completely inexcusable to complain as much as some ex RD members have about HB leadership with this RD Relaunch. I understand feuds people have with HB personally from past events or guilds but hating on his leadership skills or choices this time around isn't warranted.

It would be very tough for you to pick out one other person on this server that would have done a better job or gone further than HB did with what he had to work with from day one of the Red Dawn relaunch.

HippoNipple 03-27-2014 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by marie (Post 1385163)
lets see sev about a week ago, nihilum v red dawn v azrael.

azrael engaged nihilum during the process red dawn took sev and ported out.

perfect example how you are dead wrong

I was talking about mass pvp. Sniping a raid target is cool but not really what I was referring to.

quido 03-27-2014 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by HippoNipple (Post 1385153)
Quido every 3 team situation is going to end up 2v1. It will never be a royal rumble. It will never be completely evenly matched for 3 different teams. The number 1 and 2 guilds will always gun for each other and the under dog is the wild card that decides what they get out of helping one of the other teams. It is common sense.

I can see why you would think that having played here and such, but it doesn't necessarily need to be that way. Also, it doesn't have to be perfectly even a match to still be fun and see victories for both sides. The nature of the game and people playing it introduces enough variability that an even slightly fair fight overall can almost always be interesting. I'd like to see a system where skill and not numbers is the biggest factor contributing to success. 70 vs 25 is fucking stupid.

Things were about fair in numbers between the three of us - where we all differed was in gear and skill. It's not that tough to close the gap for both gear and skill; some people just have no resolve.

marie 03-27-2014 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by heartbrand (Post 1385166)
Azrael has no plan for Velious other than to "get giant faction and grief Nihilum".

Protip: You can pull Tormax to zoneline and giant faction is meaningless

I have no interest in being in an officer council guild with people uninterested in slaying dragons in Velious. Sry dawg.

this goes back to the hearsay thing I was talking about earliar. just because somebody tells you something, doesnt mean its true.

heartbrand 03-27-2014 11:48 AM

Shrug, it takes 55+ people to do things in Velious. Azrael's style doesn't allow it to recruit the new players necessary, with the PVE resolve, to do big things in Velious. That doesn't mean you won't wipe Nihilum on Dragon_01 and post 1000 screenshots of it and get some lulz and fun times. But you won't get the big loots. I'm not saying one playstyle is "better" than the other, I just know I'd prefer to be on the side getting the loot u feel?

quido 03-27-2014 11:51 AM

You really think we're rolling without a plan HB? Don't be a moran. It's a new era for red - everyone is looking towards the future.

marie 03-27-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by heartbrand (Post 1385180)
Shrug, it takes 55+ people to do things in Velious. Azrael's style doesn't allow it to recruit the new players necessary, with the PVE resolve, to do big things in Velious. That doesn't mean you won't wipe Nihilum on Dragon_01 and post 1000 screenshots of it and get some lulz and fun times. But you won't get the big loots. I'm not saying one playstyle is "better" than the other, I just know I'd prefer to be on the side getting the loot u feel?

Yeah I understand completely how you feel and I understand what kind of player you are than most i believe. but I also truly believe azrael will be getting big loots in velious, definitely not all of it, but plenty. I guess time will tell.

iiNGloriouS 03-27-2014 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by heartbrand (Post 1385180)
Azrael's style doesn't allow it to recruit the new players necessary, with the PVE resolve, to do big things in Velious.

Guess our new up and coming members in Uprising (peaking at 25 people on the other day to a low of maybe 6 during primetime) doesn't mean anything. Shout out to Biggy. Sexiest ogre on the box.


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