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Ahldagor 05-17-2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHurb (Post 1457497)
wish i could say it was nice knowing you all!

"the rate at which we transmit and analyze data is infinitesimal compared to how fast a computer can do it. Would they even want to bother?

Jeff Atwood takes a look at how a computer's timescale breaks down, and relates it to human timeframes. It's interesting to note the huge variance in latency. If we consider one CPU cycle to take 1 second, then a sending a ping across the U.S. would take the equivalent of 4 years. A simple conversation could take the equivalent of thousands of years. Would any consciousness be able to deal with such a relative delay?""

our brains are still faster right now. the trend is a logic line of moore's law mixed with some ad infinitum that a lot of science depends on, but the asymptote gets too close to the axis eventually; and then the line breaks down because the trustees of it lose their trust in it.

Ahldagor 05-17-2014 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHurb (Post 1457518)
stop making me feel better!

i think mostly this morality concept concerns me because it will be programmed, quantified IF's based on a known desired outcome, and it can shape towards that goal, but not really make decisions... and it will be a short step to analyze the .. scenarios... based on desired outcomes and how the data matches up.

humans dont match up... we're way too organic in all senses to do something like this. terrifying for the future people for sure, esp. when the machines are built with sophisticated protections to avoid their shutting down from offensive weapons or tactics.

crazy shit, gonna cause more problems than solutions.. humans are already the best machines, improve our protocols and connect us more, i say. machines should only facilitate that end. which is a mindfuck cause of course thats what people making skynet would say the machines are doing. weak dude!

need the truth machine that can detect human lies 100%. FORCE us to stop using part of our machinery, instead of changing everything by addition.

the truth machine is the only way. and the truth is harsh. better to know than not; and i will choose freedom over happiness. but im sick that way?

absolutely agree that we are not programmable machines. that's also a remnant of the logic line that descartes established with "cogito ergo sum" which is a metaphysical statement that doesn't acknowledge metaphysics in an honest nor ordinary way. people splice it to doubt but that distorts the entire thing because the notion itself is ego dependent while our existence wasn't willed out of mother's wombs.


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