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Quiet 06-10-2014 10:14 AM

Actually from being in Azrael I didn't even mind Brainz or Salem. They weren't toxic in guild, usually wasn't around much and pretty much played the needed class to assist the raid. Sickpuppy and Chipp were total non-factors.

Even when Salem Corpse camps me I don't take it personal. If I had Ada Wong in my ear all day I'd wanna corpse camp people with rage too. :P

Just don't have someone with a thick enough neckbeard to compete. Checkraise could have fixed that and merged them in to a fighting force but then what? As we saw Nihilum started losing and they all but disappeared. So you'd just have Azrael sitting at the top getting pixels.

Kunark = not enough mobs to go around / too easy to clear. When Velious drops in 2017 room will appear for a 2nd tier guild to do Kael Arena, HoT, Kunark leftovers. Then Azrael or some other guild will flourish.

Gaanon 06-10-2014 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by heartbrand (Post 1489198)
I dunno what to tell you. What has Azrael done exactly in all seriousness? Lite took a crew basically gift wrapped to him back in Classic by myself and Samwise, and has added maybe 10-15 people to his "core." That's about it. I don't understand why the concept of having to recruit, level the new recruits, gear them, hold weekly raids, etc., is so shocking to people.

Why do people join Nihilum? Here are the options. Join Azrael where we won't level with you, won't help you with gear, have no scheduled raids, blow up OOC and the forums, and care more about ganking people 6v1 than leveling our new members, have people like Brainz 4 boxing Crypt to himself. OR, you can join Nihilum with 24/7 EXP groups, raids almost every single day, a group of people who rush to help you, hand you gear for free, and are generally friendly in OOC and forums. Man, I can't believe people keep joining Nihilum, it's truly shocking.

I was able to build a brand new core of players in RD 2.0 in 4 weeks. Literally all it took was 4 weeks to get around 35 people brand new to box considering themselves "RD" members. It likely could've gone higher had XP bonus not been removed completely. You had the an opportunity I never had over a month ago with RD, which was a special group EXP Bonus, decreased PVP level range, and a huge influx of new players. If I could get 35 people without any perks or freebies, I would imagine you could do so with all of that, combined with the fact you were getting all of the raid mobs! Yet what did you guys do? Spam the forums after every 50 v 20 victory over Wilan, shit up OOC, put 0 effort into recruiting, etc., etc. Now here you are crying for variance or something else.

You guys had 50 people three weeks ago. You want to know how to compete? RECRUIT. HAVE WEEKLY RAIDS. HAVE CONSTANT EXP GROUPS WORTH DKP. FARM RESIST JEWELRY FOR YOUR MEMBERS. STOP BEING TOXIC. REMOVE WORTHLESS PEOPLE LIKE BRAINZ / SICKPUPPY / CHIPP / SALEM. STOP PRETENDING TO BE A COUNTERSTRIKE GUILD ON A 1999 MMO BUILT AROUND SLAYING DRAGONS.

I won't even charge you a consultation fee on the advice cuz ur an old pal.

I am not crying for anything, this was already approved, and is necessary(simulated repops).

Maybe Lite does suck as a guild leader(I disagree), but no one else has used your simple key to success, or even tried - I find that suspicious you'd think someone would try. Oh wait many have, Force crew, Holo, Heresy, Rd 1.0, Rd 2.0, Azrael, Plug, Classic.

Regardless I see your point and I don't think we'll ever agree, I don't believe it's possible or it would have been demonstrated after 3 years.

PS the Willan rage was epic shit.

Kergan 06-10-2014 10:17 AM

Your best hope for two guilds is to keep doing what you're doing until Nihilum literally bursts at the seams from applicants and forms a second guild.

Gaanon 06-10-2014 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Quiet (Post 1489205)
Actually from being in Azrael I didn't even mind Brainz or Salem. They weren't toxic in guild, usually wasn't around much and pretty much played the needed class to assist the raid. Sickpuppy and Chipp were total non-factors.

Even when Salem Corpse camps me I don't take it personal. If I had Ada Wong in my ear all day I'd wanna corpse camp people with rage too. :P

Just don't have someone with a thick enough neckbeard to compete. Checkraise could have fixed that and merged them in to a fighting force but then what? As we saw Nihilum started losing and they all but disappeared. So you'd just have Azrael sitting at the top getting pixels.

Kunark = not enough mobs to go around / too easy to clear. When Velious drops in 2017 room will appear for a 2nd tier guild to do Kael Arena, HoT, Kunark leftovers. Then Azrael or some other guild will flourish.

Maybe u aren't as dumb as you are annoying.

Gaanon 06-10-2014 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Kergan (Post 1489208)
Your best hope for two guilds is to keep doing what you're doing until Nihilum literally bursts at the seams from applicants and forms a second guild.

Won't happen, I've been waiting 3 years - these guys like doing that, I know it's hard to understand.

Ezpk 06-10-2014 10:20 AM

Trust that Lite isn't here solely on his own accord, there's a lot of people that stuck around to try and keep up the momentum but shit happens & things change

Mac Drettj 06-10-2014 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaanon (Post 1489207)
I am not crying for anything, this was already approved, and is necessary(simulated repops).

Maybe Lite does suck as a guild leader(I disagree), but no one else has used your simple key to success, or even tried - I find that suspicious you'd think someone would try. Oh wait many have, Force crew, Holo, Heresy, Rd 1.0, Rd 2.0, Azrael, Plug, Classic.
.

Heresy was never griefed by Nihilum

Azrael, Plug, Classic all ate themselves (lite loot council)

Force was griefed off by Sharknado/Azrael

Holo was rogean banned




l2eq

Gaanon 06-10-2014 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac Drettj (Post 1489212)
Heresy was never griefed by Nihilum

Azrael, Plug, Classic all ate themselves (lite loot council)

Force was griefed off by Sharknado/Azrael

Holo was rogean banned




l2eq

I can't even really reply to you anymore my little retarded forum troll follower, but I appreciate you try so desperately to get me to reply to you.

Koota 06-10-2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by heartbrand (Post 1489119)
make some more variance posts now.


Sheriff 06-10-2014 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac Drettj (Post 1489212)
Heresy was never griefed by Nihilum

Azrael, Plug, Classic all ate themselves (lite loot council)

Force was griefed off by Sharknado/Azrael

Holo was rogean banned




l2eq

Lol. Stop. I remember multiple hate raids in which Nihilum dropped on our heads and killed. Then sat on our corpses for hours. I also remember the hate spewed by Rexx toward Nihilum before he called a hate raid never showed then left the guild.


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