Not to mention playing on a 15inch crt screen with a voodoo 2 card so your draw distance can barely see shit with a cramped UI on top of Windows 98 SE. You ever tried pounding a nail through your dick to emulate those times?

Done it already.

Gnomeregan is nothing compared to Everquest dungeons. It's quite linear and open, nowhere near the complexity/danger of how twisty, shrouded, and chain aggro-y most EQ dungeons are, not to mention possible trains from other groups, since dungeons aren't freaking instances in EQ. It's not really that big either.

yeah but you don't rly have a reason to crawl most EQ dungeons per se. so it's effectivly bigger

The events and drama that unfold during an EQ Dungeon group are organic and unplanned. In WoW everything is on rails and there is very little variation. Once you reach a certain level of skill in WoW all these dungeons turn into the same experience, just faster. Certainly that same argument can be made for say a Crypt group in Seb, but there is still more variation in that experience compared to a Gnomergen or whatever.

I'll probably play WoW Classic because it's better than anything new coming out but the experiences and entertainment styles are just different. WoW Classic will be fun but for different reasons than why EQ is/was fun.

This is tru.

pvp content plan. Good luck trying to level 45-60 on a PVP server until the BG's are out lol.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wo...nt-plan/146049

Since we broke down the six phases of content that we’ll be rolling out for Classic, we’ve heard the increase in requests for PvP details so we wanted to get you up to speed on our plans there.

As was the case when World of Warcraft originally launched in 2004, there won’t be a formal PvP system in WoW Classic at the outset. You’ll still be able to PvP, of course, and there will be no Dishonorable Kills, so you’ll be free to repeatedly hunt down every player and NPC in, say, Stranglethorn Vale to your stealthy heart’s content.

That’ll change once phase 2 rolls around and we add the Honor System, which will introduce Honorable Kills, Dishonorable Kills, and PvP Rank Rewards. The items you earn from the PvP Rank Rewards will be the versions from patch 1.12. Keep in mind though, just as it did originally, it will require a substantial time investment to rank up through the Honor System. For those interested in the Rank Rewards, earning epic gear will require consistent dedication over a long period of time as a top contributor on your realm. We don’t expect to see many people running around with these items early on, but we’re certain Hillsbrad Foothills will still see its fair share of action!

In the third phase, we’ll introduce the first Battlegrounds: Alterac Valley (version 1.12 2.6k) and Warsong Gulch, alongside with their associated vendors. One thing to note is that there were a couple of updates to these vendors over the course of the original patch releases, so some items won’t be available right away. For example, the Spell Penetration trinkets available from the Warsong Gulch vendor weren’t introduced until Patch 1.9, so we’re currently thinking that we’ll add these in phase 5.

The Arathi Basin Battleground will follow in phase 4, along with its specific vendor. It’ll be interesting to see how many people stay behind to guard the flag. :wink:

Finally, in phase 6, we’ll have the world PvP objectives in Silithus and Eastern Plaguelands, which will come out at the same time as Naxxramas.

Here’s what the PvP content looks like mapped to the phases we recently posted about:

Phase 1 (WoW Classic Launch)

You can PvP one another in the world, but there is no tracking, and no formal rewards for doing so.

Phase 2

Honor System (including Dishonorable Kills)
PvP Rank Rewards

Phase 3

Alterac Valley (version 1.12 2.6k)
Warsong Gulch

Phase 4

Arathi Basin

Phase 6

World PvP objectives in Silithus and Eastern Plaguelands

As we mentioned before, we haven’t yet determined exactly when each of the content phases will occur but we’ll keep you updated as they draw closer.

We’re here reading what you have to say, so we wanted to thank all of you for your feedback and discussions about Classic. Keep it going!

WPvP never did much for me in WoW. It seemed to just be about getting the jump and taking advantage of situations rather than any type of skill. PvE Realm for me with my PvP being done in BGs.

You still had to walk all the way back to your corpse. And often they'd be waiting there to gank you again. Harassing people like this was the only real functional point to PvP. You pushed people out the area so they couldn't quest/get exp there.

I was a Rank14 Combat rogue in classic and couldnt be less excited for this. I really don't get the hype over an official vanilla server after having played Nostalrious and all the other breakaway servers. Content is trivialized like none other, inside of an instanced zone mind you. Boss mobs were dying in as quick as ~19 seconds or some stupid low number. Tier2 will be a joke, Naxx 3.0 will be a joke id imagine too.


The PVP ranks will be impossible to climb. The honor grind will be insane as you're now going against premades playing 70+ hours a week to try to climb high, and there was only a finite number of Rank 13 and one Rank 14 per week if I recall. This won't be classic where most people are scrubs. People know how to PVP now, and honor is all about premades and time. If Naxx3.0 is trivialized, there isnt really a need for Rank12/13/14 gear anyways.

When I grinded Rank14 in vanilla I was able to do it by going "hardcore" for 2 months, some premades, some solo queue. I imagine it'd be 300% harder now.

So PVE is a joke now and PVP grind sounds impossible without playing full-time WoW BG farm crew.

Maybe im not getting the hype of this shit. Itll be better because you get to pay $15/month?