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Baler 03-22-2021 05:09 PM

Runnyeye zem makes hole zem look bad.

encopitt 03-23-2021 05:23 PM

I personally think this comes down to the fact that post 35 hell levels, pixels become God, and ZEM is the only consideration players take into account for where to level.
I got more xp in CoM in 3 hours with a good group, then in Paw Judges camp with a very average group. Spawn times, mob HP and overall difficulty, should all be taken into the equation of where to level, but again, ZEM is the one thing that everyone knows about a zone.
I literally had a group port and run to CoM from WC, and leave after 15 minutes without even establishing a camp because "ZEM sux0rz here let's port to Paw or CT".
Personally I DGAF about ZEM, and if more people understood the why's of ZEM some of these zones would have more population and more potential to find groups.
As it stands there's a pretty linear path 90% of players do:
Area starting dungeon -> unrest -> Paw/CT -> solb/KC.
Sitting in CoM for a weekend and getting in 2 good groups and 1 bad one in 3 days, and having a dozen people beg me to come to CT/PAW specifically"cause ZEM" is annoying AF.
When the potential for better or at least equivalent moving pixels requires a doctorate in mathematics and a politicians gift of persuasion to get people to stop looking at the bolded ZEM for every zone as the end all be all for experience, it taks a lot of the fun out of it.

-encopitt

Ravager 03-24-2021 03:37 AM

One of my best times on Blue was a dungeon crawl in a group in a then empty Hole. It's good to see people aren't scared of that zone anymore.

Arvan 03-24-2021 03:44 AM

Yellow text isn't classic either - lets get that bumped to the top of the list before we get to zems

BurtMacklinFBI 03-27-2021 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arvan (Post 3278210)
Yellow text isn't classic either - lets get that bumped to the top of the list before we get to zems

pass, lets get the zem first

Shinko 03-27-2021 11:08 AM

RANDOM ZEM

/random 200 per week! and dont tell anyone per zone

Old_PVP 03-28-2021 11:21 AM

Min-Maxing nerds. :rolleyes:

How about leveling in a zone you enjoy... with or without ZEM?! :eek:

But I get it, ZEMs are cool... so we shouldn't get rid of them, but they should be random and frequently change. Most importantly though, players shouldn't know which zones have ZEM.

I imagine people would be exploring the world then... trying to discover which zone is modified, and trying to keep it a secret amongst their close friends to take advantage of it. Going Anonymous to hide location, etc.

Jimjam 03-28-2021 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old_PVP (Post 3280086)
Min-Maxing nerds. :rolleyes:

How about leveling in a zone you enjoy... with or without ZEM?! :eek:

But I get it, ZEMs are cool... so we shouldn't get rid of them, but they should be random and frequently change. Most importantly though, players shouldn't know which zones have ZEM.

I imagine people would be exploring the world then... trying to discover which zone is modified, and trying to keep it a secret amongst their close friends to take advantage of it. Going Anonymous to hide location, etc.

We’re talking about addicts. No enjoyment, just scratching the itch. Sorry.

fastboy21 03-28-2021 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old_PVP (Post 3280086)
Min-Maxing nerds. :rolleyes:

How about leveling in a zone you enjoy... with or without ZEM?! :eek:

But I get it, ZEMs are cool... so we shouldn't get rid of them, but they should be random and frequently change. Most importantly though, players shouldn't know which zones have ZEM.

I imagine people would be exploring the world then... trying to discover which zone is modified, and trying to keep it a secret amongst their close friends to take advantage of it. Going Anonymous to hide location, etc.

Hard to enjoy zones that nobody else ever plays in. You can certainly make groups and arrange your own adventures with friends to these off the beaten path places, but on a regular average night of play that can be really hard/impossible to do...and you find yourself LFG in a generic PUG friendly zone.

Its a really good idea to move the ZEMs around..."but it isn't strictly classic" is the only argument that seems to come up against it.

Shinko 03-28-2021 11:30 PM

RANDOM ZEMS


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