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myrddraal 11-16-2021 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by starkind (Post 3387495)
earth pets u can keep like 2 mobs rooted and nuke 1 down if u use

line1: /pet back off
line2: /pet attack

and another hotkey that is just pet back off

on a earth pet

Necro can snare pull, snare, fd, stand once split and root rot or fear kite. Mage pet bad.

Bardp1999 11-16-2021 10:57 AM

"Jack of all, Master of all" is the more fitting mantra

starkind 11-16-2021 11:04 AM

lol fair enough necro wins!!!

Nerf necro to only call of bones (skele form lich??)
nerf chanters to ony breeze?

cap charm at 30 seconds max and double mana usage and leaves a 30 minute debuff on mob that makes it so it can't be charmed again for 30 minutes

cap necro pets at sk pet levels

cap bards at 12 mobs only

buff mr on high lvl planar mobs so that u need tash, malo, and stuff to even have a 33.3333% chance of landing spells

starkind 11-16-2021 11:05 AM

increase wizard and cleric nuke DPM to 4.0 at lvl 50 and like 8.0 at lvl 60

starkind 11-16-2021 11:05 AM

maybe clerics like 6.0 at 60 and 3.5 at 50 or something so wiz can keep a slight lead wiz have snare tho which is op and cleric dont

Trexller 11-16-2021 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bardp1999 (Post 3387741)
"Jack of all, Master of all" is the more fitting mantra

donating for a muzzle of mardu, or aego, or sow, or port to WC or invis

starkind 11-16-2021 11:08 AM

mage pets should be way more tankier do less than a warrior, but still hold agro really good

and mage pet nukes should have like a big resist against their modifier so -300 for water element ice pet vs cold and -300 fr for like fire pet nuke, air could be like magic -100 or 150 and mage nukes should all have -150 fr, but their shock blade spells should still be flat -0 mr based thats for when there is like no way to land them at all period would make mages more fair and balanced in the new pecking order

unsunghero 11-16-2021 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by starkind (Post 3387750)
mage pets should be way more tankier do less than a warrior, but still hold agro really good

and mage pet nukes should have like a big resist against their modifier so -300 for water element ice pet vs cold and -300 fr for like fire pet nuke, air could be like magic -100 or 150 and mage nukes should all have -150 fr, but their shock blade spells should still be flat -0 mr based thats for when there is like no way to land them at all period would make mages more fair and balanced in the new pecking order

At one point they were. This was in retail, but there was a point where earring pet focus items were broken OP (I remember having like pet focus 15 or so), and made mage pets better tanks than actual tanks. They were still boring to play, they could do their line of site bolts and the only new thing at level 115 when I was playing was they could summon this second pet, this little temporary gargoyle, over and over, which could offtank a mob and do huge damage, like 5,000ish damage quads with the little guy. They also had AA’s which let them double-nuke on their next nuke for huge burst

Wizards became the rightful kings of dps with instant ways to get huge chunks of mana back, and rogues were given a bunch of various poisons that were actually useful. I didn’t pay a ton of attention to other classes tho

starkind 11-16-2021 11:53 AM

ya i suppose earth pet resist affinity would be poison in my world

they'd never tank as good as a warrior in full planar

almost as good and have more hp (like not as good mitigation, just more hp) and do about as much melee damage as a bard or cleric with the right spells and buffs going including their proc

Bardp1999 11-16-2021 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Trexller (Post 3387749)
donating for a muzzle of mardu, or aego, or sow, or port to WC or invis

Muzzle is a novelty item
Necro can self buff HP
Jboots
Necro can port themselves at night across entire zones via levant
WC cap and OT hammer
Instant click self invis and IVU


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