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gwideon 12-31-2013 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Derubael (Post 1246200)
Just something to consider when talking about a points system...

What do you do when 1 guild either splits into two or sticks a bunch of alts into a brand new guild...?

How will you know if that new guild is a legitimate separate entity, or just a ploy for more points?

Will you just go with your gut feeling and tell a guild that may in fact be its own thing separate from the original guild 'no, you can't raid because we think you're exploiting points'?

Just a thought. Not saying you can't do it.
I mentioned this in a previous thread; feeder guilds and shadow guilds. I think the only way to discourage this is to have a self regulated mandatory wait to raid for people in a guild for less than 30 days. It doesn't completely address the issue, but it would serve to discourage it.

williestargell 12-31-2013 12:31 PM
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I mentioned this in a previous thread; feeder guilds and shadow guilds. I think the only way to discourage this is to have a self regulated mandatory wait to raid for people in a guild for less than 30 days. It doesn't completely address the issue, but it would serve to discourage it.
I believe the "other" proposal on the table addresses this concern with a good sized waiting period

Nirgon 12-31-2013 12:37 PM
These kids can't appreciate slaying orcs in the commonlands. They can't LIVE without PD loot.

Sickening.

Ravager 12-31-2013 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Yinikren (Post 1246017)
I can live with not raiding a month if it means fixing a one sided proposal like this.
Been living with it for years. What's another month?

Ravager 12-31-2013 12:49 PM
This whole thing is overly complicated and clearly one-sided. The points system is the fairest for promoting competition, easiest to maintain and enforce, as well as giving everyone a fair shot at any mob they want to attempt. Also, the points system has the added bonus of forcing people act like adults and actually make choices.

Alarti0001 12-31-2013 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Ravager (Post 1247283)
This whole thing is overly complicated and clearly one-sided. The points system is the fairest for promoting competition, easiest to maintain and enforce, as well as giving everyone a fair shot at any mob they want to attempt. Also, the points system has the added bonus of forcing people act like adults and actually make choices.
No its not.

Versus 12-31-2013 01:00 PM
This isn't a socialist server. There shouldn't be an equal distribution of raid mobs to the guilds. Tell me what live server had the 5th best guild killing equal mobs as the 1st best guild?

Daldaen 12-31-2013 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Versus (Post 1247308)
This isn't a socialist server. There shouldn't be an equal distribution of raid mobs to the guilds. Tell me what live server had the 5th best guild killing equal mobs as the 1st best guild?
This is why VP should remain competitive and everything else should be rotated.

The 1st and 2nd guilds will get the best PD loot and then everyone else will get the open world stuff until they are able to try to compete if they want to in VP.

Alarti0001 12-31-2013 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Daldaen (Post 1247316)
This is why VP should remain competitive and everything else should be rotated.
Why? You said this is why.. but you didn't elaborate as to why. Do so.

Versus 12-31-2013 01:06 PM
I hope everyone recognizes the fact that this whole problem stems from no Velious. These mobs would be completely open if the top 3 guilds were busy in Velious.


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