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Homesteaded 09-22-2021 04:46 PM

You're a fool if you think the rich and corporations pay no taxes. Like full blown moron, how anyone can say this with a straight face is beyond me.

Gatordash 09-22-2021 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by blindedsoul (Post 3366231)
When the rich dont pay taxes, that is when OUR taxes go up because no one is paying them other than the lower classes.

If you are in the top 40% of income earners then you are part of paying 84% of the country's taxes. The bottom 60% pay fuck all. If you are in the bottom 40% then you are not only not paying taxes but you are getting money back.

Whale biologist 09-22-2021 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Homesteaded (Post 3366236)
Typically when I've seen people make claims that the rich or corporations are paying nothing in taxes, what they really mean is that they think the rich and corporations should be taxed based on their net worth. If you think individuals and businesses should be taxed this way, you're a communist, or you're poor and dumb, could be all of the above. You're welcome.

No honor among thieves

Whale biologist 09-22-2021 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by blindedsoul (Post 3366231)
Also @whale biologist you are failing to understand that states individually are giving tax rebates and leniency to get amazon warehouses.... this is common practice lmk if you need an article.

Guess what? The people they hire at those warehouses pay taxes from their earnings. Yet that money came from Amazon. Curious!

If you tax from the top down, the revenue vanishes because they don't have cash for capital expenditures, like building warehouses to employ more of those workers.

blindedsoul 09-22-2021 04:57 PM

You guys just take your own dipshit trigger-words/ idea's and just run with them don't you?

No one said net worth other than another conservative neo liberal you are self triggering yourselves.

Can any of you 3 actually read the prior comment or do you guys just read conservative trigger-words and mime off each other like the birds from nemo.

1970 top corporate income tax rate was 70%, now its less than 30 the tax burden has been shifted onto the other lower classes. There is no example anywhere where the top 1% 's tax rate has gone up in the last 40 years since this Reagonomics failed neo liberalism experiment.

Nothing is trickling down, it has not worked it will never work, Trickle down is just piss economics going down your back.

Amazon only pays well because they have a terrible time retaining a workforce/ their workplace injuries are on average 400% higher than other warehouses.
Meanwhile they have actively engaged in destroying competitors markets/ destroyed other american job growth Source below one of many they do this universally across markets to destroy competitors.

better source https://www.businessinsider.com/amaz...ce-war-2010-11
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...fore-buying-it

We have an unhealthy amount of plebians groveling to lick the boots of the 1% and pay the taxes for the 1% its kind of sick in America and its why working class taxes keep going up.

Jibartik 09-22-2021 04:59 PM

How about no income tax then? Since the only people that pay it are poor.

This country doesn't need more taxes to spend on bailing out rich people you want to tax.

They all own 100 million in property, that's the problem.

Gatordash 09-22-2021 05:17 PM

Don't blame other people for you being unable to make a coherent point. Figure out if you want to tax the rich or tax corporations. You can't say both and then get mad when people point out one or the other for being dumb.

And either way if you want to tax the rich it will never happen because unlike what you said, the people don't lick the boots of the 1%, politician's do. That's how they got there. And if you want to tax corporations then you will have to get the government to change the tax code and also to stop bailing out corporations when they are 'too big to fail' even though they will just take the money and put it into stock buybacks so management gets even wealthier.

Homesteaded 09-22-2021 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blindedsoul (Post 3366266)
1970 top corporate income tax rate was 70%, now its less than 30 the tax burden has been shifted onto the other lower classes. There is no example anywhere where the top 1% 's tax rate has gone up in the last 40 years since this Reagonomics failed neo liberalism experiment.

30 > 0 Right?

The 1970's just a great time economically. The decade that gave us 15%+ mortgage rates. Surely a time to model. Next.

Jibartik 09-22-2021 05:19 PM

HAHA income.

They obtain property, they dont make income.

They blow any profits they have on more houses at a loss to make income to blow on more houses on a loss next year etc

They do however pay more taxes for those purchases than anyone reading this will pay in income tax during your entire existence fwiw.

But that just means we shouldn't get rid of income taxes.

Bardp1999 09-22-2021 06:04 PM

Just got done cleaning my in-ground pool and outdoor kitchen, having some friends over to watch AEW tonight. Enjoy your apartment loser


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