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jcr4990 12-21-2016 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Relbaic (Post 2427909)
But if you can't verify how can you claim it as fact?

The Tormax head and CT brain as well as a mediocre raid chest piece I'm 100% sure of. I believe there was 1 or 2 other raid drops but I'm not sure and don't have access to verify. Thought I was clear in my post but hopefully this clarifies.


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Originally Posted by Ravager (Post 2427913)
If loot is the point, then why not just buy a D&D book, roll up a character and play dress-up with it to your heart's content? You'd save yourself a lot of time and trouble arguing about it.

For the same reason I don't use godmode cheats in single player games. It's fun for a minute but it gets boring real fast. It's gotta take some effort to deck out your character or else it ruins the fun. This kind of attitude is exactly what ruined WoW and other modern MMO's. Everyone just wanted everything easy and it got to the point where nothing meant anything cause the best gear in the game (or very near the best) just rained on everyone with nearly zero effort. Phinigel is moreso that way than P99 is. But P99 is way too far in the opposite extreme and causes the toxic behavior that has plagued the server for years. Phinny strikes a good balance imo. Your mileage may vary.

Phantasm 12-21-2016 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kushie (Post 2427917)
I miss you Vetus, happy holidays pal! Are you on Phinigel yet?

Man I'm hardly on P99. I've literally logged in like the last 4 days since you guys went to Phinigel.

Hope you guys are having fun though, seems you found the haven you were looking for

Relbaic 12-21-2016 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jcr4990 (Post 2427926)
The Tormax head and CT brain as well as a mediocre raid chest piece I'm 100% sure of. I believe there was 1 or 2 other raid drops but I'm not sure and don't have access to verify. Thought I was clear in my post but hopefully this clarifies.

So it went from 5 or 6 BiS items to now maybe 2 all in a couple hours of posting? You're not very good at this.

Uuruk 12-21-2016 05:34 PM

Relbaic is awful at Everquest.

jcr4990 12-21-2016 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Relbaic (Post 2427947)
So it went from 5 or 6 BiS items to now maybe 2 all in a couple hours of posting? You're not very good at this.

I was exaggerating and again I thought that was obvious :/ In reality it was for sure 2 BiS (maybe 3?) and another mediocre piece or two including a chestpiece that was replaced with vulak robe. If you care to look back on my posts when I first left I posted exactly what it was cause it was all fresh in my mind at the time. Does it even matter if it was 2 or 5? Wouldn't any reasonable person conclude that 2 BiS items to a single officer while most of your highest attendance members are wearing rags is enough? Seems like common sense to me. But that's not BDA leadership's style.

Ravager 12-21-2016 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jcr4990 (Post 2427926)
For the same reason I don't use godmode cheats in single player games. It's fun for a minute but it gets boring real fast. It's gotta take some effort to deck out your character or else it ruins the fun. This kind of attitude is exactly what ruined WoW and other modern MMO's. Everyone just wanted everything easy and it got to the point where nothing meant anything cause the best gear in the game (or very near the best) just rained on everyone with nearly zero effort. Phinigel is moreso that way than P99 is. But P99 is way too far in the opposite extreme and causes the toxic behavior that has plagued the server for years. Phinny strikes a good balance imo. Your mileage may vary.

So you need an actual game to play and not just loot, but people who play the game for fun and don't go crazy for loot are just pretending that loot doesn't matter?

Relbaic 12-21-2016 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jcr4990 (Post 2427952)
I was exaggerating and again I thought that was obvious :/ In reality it was for sure 2 BiS (maybe 3?) and another mediocre piece or two including a chestpiece that was replaced with vulak robe. If you care to look back on my posts when I first left I posted exactly what it was cause it was all fresh in my mind at the time. Does it even matter if it was 2 or 5? Wouldn't any reasonable person conclude that 2 BiS items to a single officer while most of your highest attendance members are wearing rags is enough? Seems like common sense to me. But that's not BDA leadership's style.

Oh so you were also exaggerating about how helpful you were as well. Gotxha

jcr4990 12-21-2016 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravager (Post 2427955)
So you need an actual game to play and not just loot, but people who play the game for fun and don't go crazy for loot are just pretending that loot doesn't matter?

Character progression is the point of the game for the vast majority of players. Once max level and all vital AA's are achieved on Phinigel the only meaningful way to advance your character is raid loot. This is the driving force that keeps most people playing. I'd love to end this argument once and for all and just have the devs remove all raid loot from raid mobs for a month and see how much interest people have in "killing dragons with their pals" with no reward. I'd be AMAZED if you could get 50 people on the entire server that gave a shit about raiding with 0 loot opportunity or DKP/Cuck Council Points on the table.

MMORPG's are all about carrot on a stick. Always have been. You can't have all stick and no carrot and you can't have all carrot and no stick. Neither one of those options is fun. You need the right balance of both.

jcr4990 12-21-2016 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Relbaic (Post 2427962)
Oh so you were also exaggerating about how helpful you were as well. Gotxha

Perhaps? I'm not afraid to admit my bias. My attendance percentages are a fact though and when it comes to deciding who gets loot I'm pretty sure we're all mostly in agreement that how much X person attends raids is pretty much top of the criteria list. Or at least it should be. Unfortunately in certain guilds it seems its way down the list behind "Is X person an officer?" and "Does X person agree with everything I say and never call me out on my bullshit?" and "Does X person love talking about sports in vent the entire raid?"

Lobus 12-21-2016 06:12 PM

Oh man... this thread totally need some Aspergers Awareness:

What’s the Big Deal about Video Games?
by Temple Grandin, PhD
Autism Asperger’s Digest

Recently I read on the Internet that I was showing my age because I was so concerned about constant video game playing. What I am worried about is when video games become such an obsession that they interfere with schoolwork or getting a job. In a new study led by University of Missouri professor Micah Mazurek, the research team examined screen-based media use among adolescents with autism spectrum disorder (ASD). The team discovered that the “majority of youths with ASD (64.2%) spent most of their free time using non-social media (television, video games)” (Mazurek et al. 2011).

How Can Video Games Be Harmful?
Video Games Can Reduce Empathy. Realistic killing of people or animals, showing cruelty and gore, would be much more damaging than a game where inanimate objects or cartoon characters are destroyed. It is my opinion that images that enable a game player to graphically inflict pain and suffering on realistic human images are likely to be the most damaging. Douglas Gentile at Iowa State University reported that a meta-analysis of 136 scientific papers on violent video games showed that playing them led to desensitization and aggressive behavior (Bavelier et al. 2011). Ho

Video Games Can Be Addictive
To classify a video gamer as an addict, his playing of video games has to seriously interfere in multiple aspects of life such as school, family life, and emotional well-being. Dr. Gentile states that approximately 8 percent of video game players ages 8 to 18 are true addicts (Bavelier et al. 2011).


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