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					Originally Posted by Ruppet
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				Dang.. and I was thinking that 21 is fairly fast too, haha. 
 
If I follow the same math to calculate weapon effectiveness.. I get ((15*2)+11) / 21 = 1.95 which outclasses the rest on the list from earlier in the post. I'd have thought the ratio would be good enough to make up for the benefit of damage bonus from a faster weapon?  Is this thinking incorrect? 
			
			 
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 Yes, but if you do the same math for the two weapons Cecily specifically mentioned you get:
 
Baton of Flame: ((13 × 2)+11) / 17 = 2.17 
Kriezenn's Flame: ((12 × 2)+11) / 17 = 2.06
 
Which is what her point was I think. Baton striaght up has a better ratio than Tolan's, and while KFlame is slightly worse, it is 4/10 of a second faster, which is pretty significant.
 
Not sure about the additional ATK, but it could make a difference. I still use epic offhand on my warrior for the ATK and Dex even thought I have a better ratio offhand, but with main hand doing a larger percentage of damage than off hand, I have no idea how much of a ratio/atk difference is necessary to justify using a worse raw damage, but higher +ATK item is.  
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