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Brut 10-22-2012 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurze (Post 751871)
Gnome Pallies/SKs

Pallys yes, SKs nothx.

Ridiculous midgets named Anklebitur/Daethbringur/Necrognomicon/et cetera scampering around with plastic mini-Inny's Curses is just shameful.

greatdane 10-22-2012 03:00 PM

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There's no doubt that introducing Luclin, and Planes of Power in their pure form would be a horrible idea for this server, because without question, despite being enjoyable expansions, they were the downfall of EverQuest as most of us knew it.
I don't see why. Eventually, after two or three years at the pinnacle of Velious, something new will have to happen or the server will be dead. That's a self-evident fact. At that point, I'd frankly put greater faith in the actual expansions which, while a step back, were at least decent. It's not like Luclin and PoP was some kind of unplayable atrocity, it was just worse than than what preceded them. However, I think it would be arrogant and naïve to presume that a handful of amateur hobbyists could design better expansions for a game for which they don't even have the original source code or full client freedom. As much as Luclin/PoP made Everquest worse, I think they'd be better than what can be cobbled together by some people who have never designed games before. Consider also the overwhelming workload it would be to design something new from scratch, compared to simply copying and reverse-engineering what already exists. How many custom-content emus have had any kind of long-term success? Isn't it rather against the spirit of this server to suddenly introduce new, non-canon content after sticking to the classic mantra for so long like some kind of old-time married couple?

pharmakos 10-22-2012 03:17 PM

oh yeah, i forgot about gnome SKs

gnome SKs were f'n awesome

they should add gnome monks while they're at it

Calabee 10-22-2012 04:13 PM

yeah why so much hate on vah shir.. they fucking own, if you didnt intend them to be playable, at all, at some point, why allow the graphic here on p99?

http://imageshack.us/a/img823/3534/meowyb.jpg

PS: wasnt there some weird gm event long ago about blowing up the moon (luclin) wouldnt that be kinda hypocrite to talk of bringing luclin zones.

Calabee 10-22-2012 04:16 PM

PS: im all for luclin / pop and aas... custom content, not so much, i dont play on the ezserver. If they are -ever- gonna be introduced, should be integrally.. but that's just my 2 cents.

Phats 10-22-2012 04:56 PM

There is nothing wrong with cat people, its just that cat people are on the moon and that is wrong.

Splorf22 10-22-2012 05:15 PM

Well realistically I don't think you can reimplement PoP/Luclin without some sort of progression. MMOs are a treadmill: your player and guild gradually become more powerful and more skilled. To maintain the challenge, you need new encounters and new itemization and so on.

AAs seems like a very reasonable idea to me and would be perfect for our top-heavy server if implemented correctly (moderate increase in power, huge increase in grinding time). Imagine if we implemented in Kunark an AA system where you could get +5 to any stat at a cost of n^2 AAs. Getting +25 str would cost you ~50 AAs or about the same amount of xp to level from 50-60. Its not particularly OP and gives our superhardcore playerbase something to do. I like AAs for the same reason I like augs: its a way to give people a way to customize and specialize a bit rather than everyone using the same BiS gear.

Also I agree with whoever said that Luclin and PoP, while flawed, were the product of a paid full-time design team. There is just no way that two people working in their spare time are going to do better. So I think its much better idea to tweak things than do new content from day one.

Lastly, one of the things I'm curious about is that I'm told raids in 'modern' eq are a lot more strategical than classic. Could anyone give me an example or two?

Huddaan 10-22-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogean (Post 749942)
Bazaar will never exist.
PoKnowledge will never exist.

Awesome

Kika Maslyaka 10-22-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Calabee (Post 751957)
yeah why so much hate on vah shir.. they fucking own, if you didnt intend them to be playable, at all, at some point, why allow the graphic here on p99?.

Technically speaking they disallowed and even disabled. The fact that people hack the client to get Luclin graphics is a different matter.

Pringles 10-22-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogean (Post 749942)
But reusing plane of power zones and attaching them to existing zonelines spread out across the current norrath, definitely a possibility.

Curious how you do this without "redistributing" SOEs content? Since you would have to dish out new zone files etc right? Or is it a non issue as far as EULA shiz goes?


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