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09-09-2017 09:49 PM |
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Originally Posted by JurisDictum
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Stupid argument. You seem to ignore that a 25 year old with 500 mil to their name has a lot more going for them than just that amount of money. Almost certainly had powerful family connections or perhaps some kind of born freakish talent at something.
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first of all, 500 mil at 25 is not top 1% or top 0.1%. top 1% at 25 is around $360,000 net worth.
i'll just use the richest dude i know as an example, his parents actually died when he was young and had nothing to leave him. my friend found him homeless at 15 and basically pulled his ass out of the gutter. he then made incredibly smart decisions, particularly with certain investments, and he now is that "25 year old with 50000 gazillion dollars"
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You are by definition talking about 1% population and trying to paint that as a reasonable goal for everyone. You can't expect everyone to be a high functioning go-getter...its a tiny part of population. Someone has to scrub toilets and that someone needs healthcare and a place to live.
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it is a reasonable goal considering you can achieve it with an entry level job and decent financial planning.
bolded why they're poor, that and poor financial decisions. ever notice it's always poors buying the latest $800 iGadget and huge tv's every year? ever notice those are the only people buying $50,000 cars?
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You also seem to think punishing people for having kids young rather than supporting that decision as something that keeps the economy going. Birth rates aren't exactly spectacular which is part of the reason for immigration in most of the world (America is a little different).
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we actually reward people for having kids, to the point where people have children or adopt children specifically for the cash benefits they receive. in a liberal state like mine, a single mother with 2 kids would be getting over 2k in cash benefits, qualify for free housing (valued at $3,200 a month for the cheapest 3 bed in my area, INCLUDING priority over other renters in one of the most competitive markets in the world) and receive $200 a month per kid in food stamps. these are very conservative estimates except the food stamp one (it's always $200/kid and about $100-200 for the mother) and that totals
just a couple hundred shy of $70,000 a year for having 2 kids as a single mother. if 1 of those kids is disabled you're looking at way more than that.
don't even try to call bullshit, because i know people who do this and i know what they receive.
the government isn't responsible for the fact that having kids young is a financial burden on someone going to college and entering the workforce in their mid 20's.
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