Originally Posted by heartbrand (Post 2549701)

I got trolled hard with 3 loots with < 10 hours of play.

Originally Posted by KEWLGET (Post 2549786)

u sound emotionally distressed over the fact that heartbrand makes more money in real life than you do

Originally Posted by Nedkelly (Post 2549795)

What's sad about this thread is apex as a guild raided the server for a year long before competition came, got shit stomped for a few months, went underground (acutally raided at 4am and 2am to avoid pvp), the other guild got bored, half of them left, apex did a few surprise attacks and won a few battles etc..... and are now very happy that people who pose/d any risk to their NToV farm train have quit.. so that they can go back to raiding uncontested for who knows how many more years on an 80 pop server.

A perfect example again as to why this server isnt ACTUALLY about PvP but a bunch of loot fiends who will out last, out endure and out backstab anyone to attain loot on 80 pop server.

I told my friend that Ragnarok was never going to sustain beating apex into the ground because once you disconnect from the server as a player that flame is gone forever so there's no truely coming back for half the people that did ( it's boring )..... well except for those that are insane and want to gear up another NToV alt. So by and large Ragnarok had a termination point by default that all Apex had to do was wait out.

Nizzar's philosophy was to control the neckbeards because that's where the ultimate control of the server is, the guys that log in for 10-12 hour shifts each day 5-7 days a week. X named neckbeard might have changed over the years, but that philosophy stays true, and the apex leadership are born in the mold of Nizzar.

When you think about it like this your perspective changes to what any sane member of society sees.

Remember you're talking about people that farmed this server when it had 20 pop at peak and it was only that high on PD killing day (once per week +repops)...the rest of the time it was 10-15 peak pop........... ( that's the level of mental sickness you talking about ).... sickness of the mind + everquest is bad news for some.

Originally Posted by Nedkelly (Post 2549795)

What's sad about this thread is apex as a guild raided the server for a year long before competition came, got shit stomped for a few months, went underground (acutally raided at 4am and 2am to avoid pvp), the other guild got bored, half of them left, apex did a few surprise attacks and won a few battles etc..... and are now very happy that people who pose/d any risk to their NToV farm train have quit.. so that they can go back to raiding uncontested for who knows how many more years on an 80 pop server.

A perfect example again as to why this server isnt ACTUALLY about PvP but a bunch of loot fiends who will out last, out endure and out backstab anyone to attain loot on 80 pop server.

I told my friend that Ragnarok was never going to sustain beating apex into the ground because once you disconnect from the server as a player that flame is gone forever so there's no truely coming back for half the people that did ( it's boring )..... well except for those that are insane and want to gear up another NToV alt. So by and large Ragnarok had a termination point by default that all Apex had to do was wait out.

Nizzar's philosophy was to control the neckbeards because that's where the ultimate control of the server is, the guys that log in for 10-12 hour shifts each day 5-7 days a week. X named neckbeard might have changed over the years, but that philosophy stays true, and the apex leadership are born in the mold of Nizzar.

When you think about it like this your perspective changes to what any sane member of society sees.

Remember you're talking about people that farmed this server when it had 20 pop at peak and it was only that high on PD killing day (once per week +repops)...the rest of the time it was 10-15 peak pop........... ( that's the level of mental sickness you talking about ).... sickness of the mind + everquest is bad news for some.

Originally Posted by Nedkelly (Post 2549795)

What's sad about this thread is apex as a guild raided the server for a year long before competition came, got shit stomped for a few months, went underground (acutally raided at 4am and 2am to avoid pvp), the other guild got bored, half of them left, apex did a few surprise attacks and won a few battles etc..... and are now very happy that people who pose/d any risk to their NToV farm train have quit.. so that they can go back to raiding uncontested for who knows how many more years on an 80 pop server.

A perfect example again as to why this server isnt ACTUALLY about PvP but a bunch of loot fiends who will out last, out endure and out backstab anyone to attain loot on 80 pop server.

I told my friend that Ragnarok was never going to sustain beating apex into the ground because once you disconnect from the server as a player that flame is gone forever so there's no truely coming back for half the people that did ( it's boring )..... well except for those that are insane and want to gear up another NToV alt. So by and large Ragnarok had a termination point by default that all Apex had to do was wait out.

Nizzar's philosophy was to control the neckbeards because that's where the ultimate control of the server is, the guys that log in for 10-12 hour shifts each day 5-7 days a week. X named neckbeard might have changed over the years, but that philosophy stays true, and the apex leadership are born in the mold of Nizzar.

When you think about it like this your perspective changes to what any sane member of society sees.

Remember you're talking about people that farmed this server when it had 20 pop at peak and it was only that high on PD killing day (once per week +repops)...the rest of the time it was 10-15 peak pop........... ( that's the level of mental sickness you talking about ).... sickness of the mind + everquest is bad news for some.

Originally Posted by Nedkelly (Post 2549795)

What's sad about this thread is apex as a guild raided the server for a year long before competition came, got shit stomped for a few months, went underground (acutally raided at 4am and 2am to avoid pvp), the other guild got bored, half of them left, apex did a few surprise attacks and won a few battles etc..... and are now very happy that people who pose/d any risk to their NToV farm train have quit.. so that they can go back to raiding uncontested for who knows how many more years on an 80 pop server.

A perfect example again as to why this server isnt ACTUALLY about PvP but a bunch of loot fiends who will out last, out endure and out backstab anyone to attain loot on 80 pop server.

I told my friend that Ragnarok was never going to sustain beating apex into the ground because once you disconnect from the server as a player that flame is gone forever so there's no truely coming back for half the people that did ( it's boring )..... well except for those that are insane and want to gear up another NToV alt. So by and large Ragnarok had a termination point by default that all Apex had to do was wait out.

Nizzar's philosophy was to control the neckbeards because that's where the ultimate control of the server is, the guys that log in for 10-12 hour shifts each day 5-7 days a week. X named neckbeard might have changed over the years, but that philosophy stays true, and the apex leadership are born in the mold of Nizzar.

When you think about it like this your perspective changes to what any sane member of society sees.

Remember you're talking about people that farmed this server when it had 20 pop at peak and it was only that high on PD killing day (once per week +repops)...the rest of the time it was 10-15 peak pop........... ( that's the level of mental sickness you talking about ).... sickness of the mind + everquest is bad news for some.