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jhandor 07-27-2025 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by zelld52 (Post 3751775)
DW makes you feel like a buzzsaw from 1-50: but yeah, at 50+ it starts to fall behind a juicy 2 hander for both DPS and aggro. I hit a crippling blow for 600 on my level 51 warrior yesterday and it is one of my best accomplishments in this game.

Very nice. That's the goal.

kjs86z2 07-28-2025 08:08 AM

You can make a lot of duos work once you hit 50 and truncheon procs.

Jimjam 07-28-2025 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kjs86z2 (Post 3752701)
You can make a lot of duos work once you hit 50 and truncheon procs.

Works best in places with haste. I’ve found herby spade is better at reducing incoming damage. Evasive is not far from 50 and just redic op. Burn on refresh and time the tricky pulls to coincide with burn not vice versa.

Goregasmic 07-29-2025 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by zelld52 (Post 3751775)
DW makes you feel like a buzzsaw from 1-50: but yeah, at 50+ it starts to fall behind a juicy 2 hander for both DPS and aggro. I hit a crippling blow for 600 on my level 51 warrior yesterday and it is one of my best accomplishments in this game.

I thought the concensus was 2handers are better until ~50 because DW just doesn't fire enough and even then since the 2h dmg bonus buff, at 50+ 2h still reign supreme in most cases.

DeathsSilkyMist 07-29-2025 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Goregasmic (Post 3753014)
I thought the concensus was 2handers are better until ~50 because DW just doesn't fire enough and even then since the 2h dmg bonus buff, at 50+ 2h still reign supreme in most cases.

There's some nuance. First off, the damage caps generally make 2h weapons worse at lower levels.

From 1-19 a Reaver is a 14/40 weapon at best, which is a 0.35 ratio. Any 0.5 ratio 1h weapon like Sarnak Backstabber would do much better at those levels.

From 20-29 Reaver is a 30/40 (0.75), so it isn't that much different from dual wielding two 0.5 ratio weapons, even at the lower dual wield skill.

30+ Reaver will be 40/40, but the good 2h damage bonus numbers don't start picking up until 51+.

Using my DPS calculator, here are some DPS numbers against a trash mob of equal level. The Warrior has 150 STR and 34% Haste:

Level 9 Warrior vs. level 9 trash mob:
1. Crafted Velium Warsword (10/18) - 7 DPS

2. Reaver (40/40) (Damage capped) - 3.6 DPS

Level 19 Warrior vs. level 19 trash mob:
1. Crafted Velium Warsword (10/18) + Guard Captain's Mallet (11/20) - 12 DPS

2. Reaver (40/40) (Damage capped) - 6 DPS

Level 29 Warrior vs. level 29 trash mob:
1. Crafted Velium Warsword (10/18) + Guard Captain's Mallet (11/20) - 16 DPS

2. Reaver (40/40) (Damage capped) - 15 DPS

Level 39 Warrior vs. level 39 trash mob:
1. Crafted Velium Warsword (10/18) + Guard Captain's Mallet (11/20) - 22 DPS

2. Reaver (40/40) - 23.5 DPS

Level 49 Warrior vs. level 49 trash mob:
1. Crafted Velium Warsword (10/18) + Guard Captain's Mallet (11/20) - 22 DPS

2. Reaver (40/40) - 22 DPS

Level 60 Warrior vs. level 60 trash mob:
1. Crafted Velium Warsword (10/18) + Guard Captain's Mallet (11/20) - 35 DPS

2. Reaver (40/40) - 39 DPS

Goregasmic 07-29-2025 03:29 PM

Yeah I was under the impression there are more weapons like the silver swiftblade or bamboo bo stick out there but looking at the wiki weapon list sorted by ratio/damage, most low damage 2 handers are junk and a mere jade mace will largely outperform them. At 30 you get a lot more options.

Drueric 07-29-2025 06:50 PM

Just something to add to the discussion that I noticed recently, proc rate seem to increase 50+. I guess thats what the last change did. Devs said the change would make procs happen more, but apparently its less for lower level, and only more for high lvl. I dont know the real numbers, its just based on observations.

zelld52 08-06-2025 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Goregasmic (Post 3753014)
I thought the concensus was 2handers are better until ~50 because DW just doesn't fire enough and even then since the 2h dmg bonus buff, at 50+ 2h still reign supreme in most cases.

I'm simply judging based off of my own experiences. Quick, good ratio 1h outperformed 2h until around 50. I used SBoZ + Seb croaking dirk, compared to a Reaver.

At 50 the Reaver caught up, and at 54 the Reaver is outperforming the 1h as the damage bonus gets higher.

Drueric 08-06-2025 12:45 PM

Yea my best weapon dps was with a 2handed weapon also. Hasted of course, and thats probably why


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