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khanable 12-02-2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Daldaen (Post 1697536)
All that's worth noting here is gnomes and Halflings are never the best race for anyone to play ever.

Should just remove those races from game.


Orruar 12-02-2014 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Manticmuse (Post 1697581)
no one cares what race u are once the mob is slowed. that is not the issue, though defenders of non ogre shamans frequently cite slowed mobs as being no big deal. the hard part is getting the high mr, unrootable mob slowed in the first place. and for that, i dont care how you talk about perfect timing and pen and paper results, there are things that can screw that up, and waiting to time your casts around bash WILL add toward the total amount of melee rounds you take in doing so. if you die because of 6 straight slow resists and the ogre lives on the 7th cast, then guess what, that is a min/max advantage. so just deal with it. no one is saying you made a wrong choice, but for that rare situation that might not be so rare come velious, yes it is better!

Name a single high MR non-rootable non-kitable mob a shaman will be soloing either now or in Velious. Hint: there are none.

Stonecrush 12-02-2014 02:44 PM

Cleric - Gnome.
Best racial Trade Skill come Velious. Able to wear robes, able to wear Brell armor...
Goggles?
Not a lot of downsides.

Shamans - I like Ogre shamans, played one on Live with my trio.
Honestly any race gets the job done solo.

Necromancers - Iksar. Fear is originated from Cazic Thule, oh and that regen is nice. Unless you're a root rotter.

Magician - Gnome

Warrior - I went Ogre back in 04. He looks mean and Rallos did make the Ogres.

Rogues - insert any race, one size fits all.

Monks - Iksar unless you want to be a human, wait you are one already. Go take some Taekwondo classes.

Druids - Play whatever, it doesn't matter. (if you roll human, try LARPing. They did it in a movie and it looked cool.)

Paladins - Dwarf. Maybe an Erudite to break the trend.

SK - Ogre but remember CazicThule is calling.

Bard - Let someone else swarm the OverThere. Half Elf?

Rangers - Someone has to buff the rogues. Maybe a elf of some kind. (Legolas in some other strange fashion.) Don't be a human, don't be that guy.
Lots of Dirt naps.

That's all for now.

pharmakos 12-02-2014 02:57 PM

there's a strong case to be made for Halfling Warriors. crazy high DEX, the ability to sneak pull, and the ability to hide? why did i go barb again?

sealer 12-02-2014 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Orruar (Post 1695795)
Shaman: Troll

The same 2-3 people are always here talking up ogre stun immunity for shaman, but they don't know what they're doing. They are the kind of shaman that probably still uses JBB click spam at level 60.

Am a troll shaman, and shit i still JBB click spam... I solo the spore king once i get that bitch slowed and dmg it down with JBB then dot him up at 30%.. shit is cake

WTS 14 fungi tunics

radditsu 12-02-2014 03:18 PM

SK: Doesn't Matter
Pally: Doesn't Matter
Warrior: Doesn't Matter
Bard: Doesn't Matter
Rogue: Doesn't Matter
Monk: Doesn't Matter
Shaman: Doesn't Matter
Wizard: Doesn't Matter
Magician: Doesn't Matter
Enchanter: Doesn't Matter
Ranger: Doesn't Matter
Druid: Doesn't Matter
Necro: Doesn't Matter
Cleric: Doesn't Matter



your welcome

Stonecrush 12-02-2014 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by radditsu (Post 1698235)
SK: Doesn't Matter
Pally: Doesn't Matter
Warrior: Doesn't Matter
Bard: Doesn't Matter
Rogue: Doesn't Matter
Monk: Doesn't Matter
Shaman: Doesn't Matter
Wizard: Doesn't Matter
Magician: Doesn't Matter
Enchanter: Doesn't Matter
Ranger: Doesn't Matter
Druid: Doesn't Matter
Necro: Doesn't Matter
Cleric: Doesn't Matter



you're welcome

:rolleyes:

Raev 12-02-2014 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Taminy (Post 1696700)
Everyone who thinks you can max stamina without sacrificing raw hp/resists/other important stuff as an elf warrior is off their nut.

I cheat and use STA potions when things get serious. If you look at http://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Sakuragi you can see I'm actually skimping on a number of good items (Azure Ring, NoS, SBC) just like an Ogre would because I'm stamina capped with the potion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daldaen & Cucumbers
All that's worth noting here is gnomes and Halflings are never the best race for anyone to play ever.

Should just remove those races from game.

THOSE ARE FIGHTING WORDS, SCUM

kaev 12-02-2014 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raev (Post 1698258)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daldaen & Cucumbers
All that's worth noting here is gnomes and Halflings are never the best race for anyone to play ever.

Should just remove those races from game.

THOSE ARE FIGHTING WORDS, SCUM

Sorry man, but truth is truth even when it hurts.

sox7d 12-02-2014 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by radditsu (Post 1698235)
SK: Doesn't Matter
Pally: Doesn't Matter
Warrior: Doesn't Matter
Bard: Doesn't Matter
Rogue: Doesn't Matter
Monk: Doesn't Matter
Shaman: Doesn't Matter
Wizard: Doesn't Matter
Magician: Doesn't Matter
Enchanter: Doesn't Matter
Ranger: Doesn't Matter
Druid: Doesn't Matter
Necro: Doesn't Matter
Cleric: Doesn't Matter



your welcome

So edgy.

While I believe people should play the race that they think is coolest, this thread is about objective min/maxing.


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