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Doujou 10-05-2017 12:30 PM

Scout Roll: Can roll for others?
 
Didn't think this was the case but wanted to clarify.

Today Aikons from AM won the roll and turned in tools, but let Sovs from AM (who rolled and lost) loot the gear.

From my understanding, the winner of the roll turns in tools and loots gear. The fact you rolled is your agreement to the player-made agreement. Am I wrong in understanding how this works?

Legidias 10-05-2017 01:00 PM

Roll is just for turn in (needs tools) / "ownership" of spawned mob, that person can then decide whatever to do with loot including looting, giving, or even destroying if thats what they really want in life.

Diabolic2442 10-05-2017 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Doujou (Post 2589594)
Didn't think this was the case but wanted to clarify.

Today Aikons from AM won the roll and turned in tools, but let Sovs from AM (who rolled and lost) loot the gear.

From my understanding, the winner of the roll turns in tools and loots gear. The fact you rolled is your agreement to the player-made agreement. Am I wrong in understanding how this works?

I thought I've seen people sell MQ's of this if they win the roll. Is that also not allowed?

Doujou 10-05-2017 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Diabolic2442 (Post 2589612)
I thought I've seen people sell MQ's of this if they win the roll. Is that also not allowed?

If what Legidias says is true, then I don't see why not. I hope that's not the case, as I thought the roll agreement was that the winner turns in tools / loots item. What's stopping people from camping a factioned toon there and rolling, then selling MQs? People will stop helping, as they're not going to constantly help people pull/tag/kill Captain so said person can sell a MQ.

username17 10-05-2017 01:30 PM

The player agreement I see stated every Scout is you roll only if you have tools. You turn in tools. YOU loot the gear and turn it in.
Based on those rules everyone (well most people) stick around to help with the kill. I agree with Doujou if people start selling their rolls as MQs/Loot rights nobody's gonna stick around and help.

SiouxNation 10-05-2017 01:56 PM

Greed ruining a great experience on P99? I'm shocked.

Ay_1017 10-05-2017 02:02 PM

That's what AM always do, no surprise at all

Dreenk317 10-05-2017 02:12 PM

every scout ive been to has had the "you roll, you turn in tools, you loot disk" rules, if im not mistaken, by rolling, you have agreed to the rules, and if you then break them, you are in violation of a player made agreement. and iirc, Sirken said in his last stream that he would enforce player made agreements among those parties that had consented to them. So, if someone rolls, and then sells it, or swaps to an alt to loot, or gives to a guildy. Theyve technically broken the player made agreement as stated before the rolls happened.

Maner 10-05-2017 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreenk317 (Post 2589679)
every scout ive been to has had the "you roll, you turn in tools, you loot disk" rules, if im not mistaken, by rolling, you have agreed to the rules, and if you then break them, you are in violation of a player made agreement. and iirc, Sirken said in his last stream that he would enforce player made agreements among those parties that had consented to them. So, if someone rolls, and then sells it, or swaps to an alt to loot, or gives to a guildy. Theyve technically broken the player made agreement as stated before the rolls happened.

Please show me where this player made agreement has been formalized in writing and isn't just your assumptions and or opinion of how things should be.

NecroP99 10-05-2017 02:31 PM

Picking a fight with Aikons is not a good idea - he is AM royalty (and he is honestly a really nice guy from my interactions with him)


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