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loramin 03-12-2019 11:07 AM

Part of the Daybreak Agreement Officially Exposed: New Servers NOT Prevented
 
So now it's official: Daybreak has told us what many have suspected, and in the process disproved another popular theory. The Daybreak agreement does not prevent P99 from launching new servers! However it does impact when they're allowed to launch those servers:

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"We have more players now than we did in 2015 and our revenue has gone up," says Longdale. "And that's thanks to these servers. The Project 1999 guys are not malicious or trying to steal our money. So we just have an agreement in place that they don't launch stuff around the same time we do."
https://www.pcgamer.com/how-is-class...r-two-decades/

FWIW this seems like a totally reasonable ask on Daybreak's part, and a totally reasonable thing for P99 to give up, but I'm sure everyone here will have their own opinion.

Oleris 03-12-2019 11:10 AM

40 minutes late on my response

green server October confirmed. P1999 10 year anniversary. Rotations for all!

Clazxiss 03-12-2019 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by loramin (Post 2875062)
So now it's official: Daybreak has told us what many have suspected, and in the process disproved another popular theory. The Daybreak agreement does not prevent P99 from launching new servers! However it does impact when they're allowed to launch those servers:



https://www.pcgamer.com/how-is-class...r-two-decades/

FWIW this seems like a totally reasonable ask on Daybreak's part, and a totally reasonable thing for P99 to give up, but I'm sure everyone here will have their own opinion.

Very interesting. Wonder if Daybreak would be willing to share more information on this agreement.

Erati 03-12-2019 11:28 AM

wonder how they feel about the 46 TAKP players...

Sonark 03-12-2019 11:43 AM

Not Classic.

America 03-12-2019 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by loramin (Post 2875062)
So now it's official: Daybreak has told us what many have suspected, and in the process disproved another popular theory. The Daybreak agreement does not prevent P99 from launching new servers! However it does impact when they're allowed to launch those servers:



https://www.pcgamer.com/how-is-class...r-two-decades/

FWIW this seems like a totally reasonable ask on Daybreak's part, and a totally reasonable thing for P99 to give up, but I'm sure everyone here will have their own opinion.

this does not in reality produce insight into contract lettering. I think I would change your wording to: "So now it's unofficial!:"

Fammaden 03-12-2019 12:08 PM

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"One of our biggest lessons is that all an EverQuest player cares about is power," says Longdale. "Where's the raid, what does it drop, and how many times do I have to do it to get all the pieces?"
Way to know your customer base Daybreak, kudos. Hahaha.

Erati 03-12-2019 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by America (Post 2875097)
this does not in reality produce insight into contract lettering. I think I would change your wording to: "So now it's unofficial!:"

For all we know the agreement is about when patches are put out and a new server is still forbidden. Impossible to know really.

Things that make you go hmmm...

loramin 03-12-2019 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Oleris (Post 2875065)
40 minutes late on my response

green server October confirmed. P1999 10 year anniversary. Rotations for all!

Sorry, wasn't trying to "upstage you", but you buried the lead in that thread so I didn't think this had been posted yet.

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Originally Posted by America (Post 2875097)
this does not in reality produce insight into contract lettering. I think I would change your wording to: "So now it's unofficial!:"

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Originally Posted by Erati (Post 2875109)
For all we know the agreement is about when patches are put out and a new server is still forbidden. Impossible to know really.

Things that make you go hmmm...

Daybreak flat out said that the agreement was to limit when P99 released servers. Basic logic dictates that if they wanted to prevent new servers from being released, they'd say that. But clearly in that quote they don't: they say they're cool with P99, and all they care about is that P99 doesn't time server releases to conflict with their server releases.

Sure it's technically possible they just failed to mention that or lied about it ... but again normal/rational people wouldn't talk about the agreement like that while not mentioning or hiding a secret clause preventing new P99 servers.

And of course, long before this article there's always been the basic logic that "The entire point of Project 1999 is to create a true classic (ie. Green) server, and the P99 admins would never have entered into an agreement which thwarted the project's central purpose". This just gives official proof from Daybreak about what their motives are and why they entered into the agreement.

But look, I've been on these forums for a long time. I'm 100% sure that neither this nor any other proof will be enough for some people. Hell, I guarantee there would be people who would wig out about conspiracies even if there was video evidence of the Daybreak people and Rogean personally signing a contract, and the entire contract was captured on video.

Erati 03-12-2019 01:24 PM

lol’d

The article is an article, why would DBG tell the entirety of the agreement. Hopefully its as you say but to dismiss the possibility is a little naive.


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