Ring 8 roll
 

There was a bit of a controversy at the ring 8 roll tonight, and it seems a thread is needed to solidify and discuss the current time, and how it came to be.

Current roll time as I understand it: 9:30PM CST / 10:30PM EST
This is open for discussion; see below.

Now, as for how this time game to be,
The most recent quake occurred at 8:35PM CST. Knowing this, a group began to gather at the roll spot over an hour before the time of the quake the following day. At approximately 7:40PM CST, with 10-11 players present, and representing most major guilds, a brief discussion was had for when the do the roll. With no objections, it was tentatively set for 8PM CST.
The following day, we learn from the previous winner that pop did not occur for over two hours (10:05PM CST) and with 10-12 players present, another discussion was had about bumping back the time to something a bit more rational.
This evening, though, as everyone began to log in ahead of the 9:30PM CST roll, another player had claimed they already won a roll that occurred back at the 8PM CST time. Another player showed up closer to the actual roll time, suggesting he had also taken part in the 8PM CST roll.

I was present for the first, second, and forth roll post-quake. The two players at the 8PM CST roll were not present for either of the two initial post-quake rolls, so it's easy to see where the confusion is coming from, so let's just open this up for discussion...



What time would y'all prefer the roll to be?

• 8PM CST, as originally decided on the first post-quake roll.
• or 9:30PM CST, as decided after learning that the actual pop is not until at least 10:05PM CST?

Makes no difference to me. Hell, pick 8PM and I can go to sleep a little earlier!

~30 minutes prior seems more reasonable to me. This event doesn't take massive mobilization so having it more than that seems outlandish.

Thanks for making a thread on it. I have been hunting for this for a while lol.

I just don't understand how someone wins a roll after quake and the next roll a few decide to move the time from the original win... but see ya tomorrow 930 CST

I think the roll happening 2 hours prior to pop is a bit dumb. I like it sticking to around an hour prior. Even that is a bit much

Make a player agreement to roll on pop like shady/angry goblin.
Make a clausule, as on angry, that rolling implies helping on the event, which for Ring 8 fight is a 5minutes 30seconds timed event.

That will:

a) Save hours of time from roll to Gloradin spawn.
b) Avoid people intentionally (or not) waiting to trigger Gloradin after she spawns, spacing the time from the roll to her spawns daily.
c) Remove the need of external help from guild/friends to finish the event, as the rollers will and must help you doing it, making the fight trivial considering the amount of people who assist to rolls.
d) Remove the daily increasing additional time to Gloradin spawn time as the turn in will be nearly instant as the repop time will be known and the kill force will be in place (rollers)

My 2cts.

As explained last night, the person who won the initial post-quake roll gave us pop time (see logs above) and we,

• as a group
• a group now (slightly) larger than the group that decided on the initial time
• a group consisting of members from AM, Core, PS, Omni, Hispartans, and probably(?) more
• a group that offered no objections

had a discussion prior to the follow-up 8PM CST roll, and determined it was worth moving the time forward. Folks from your own guild were present for each of these rolls, so the information was available to you. Unfortunately, it sounds like you were getting your time from someone who showed up for the first roll, and not the second (as I can confirm with my logs.)

Just a simple misunderstanding, and 1-2 "wasted" rolls on a few people's part. Sucks, but with as few people who are currently showing up to Ring 8, you'll have yours in no time.

Because of the nature of this event, doing so would require also adding in the expectation that all people present for roll also assist with the event, similar to Scout roll. I am not vehemently opposed to this, but it is a MASSIVE change. Failing this, the spawn would get pushed back each and every cycle, as there is an absolute minimum of a 5 minute port+run time for people to get a kill crew in place.
Edit: didn't catch your edit. Looks like we are on the same page. I am fine with either method, personally.

I like this even more.

Rolling 30 minutes prior to the spawn time of Gloradain seems ample time to recruit some friends / talk to those there to roll to get enough help. Last time I did it, it was half an hour - albeit a year or so ago.

Scout problem, is that today is 30 minutes. Tomorrow is 31 minutes. And next day can be 1 hour +, cuz the roll winner was left alone and had trouble finding friends, or just felt like stalling it was a funny thing to do, which is not new.

Then, you end with a roll 2 hours before the spawn (Not even gonna bring back the memories of march 2017, when the roll was around 6 hours before gloradin spawn...)

I personally dont random there much anymore, but the Pre-Rolls are an open box to break the system by people who is not even turning in themselves to Gloradin or just people stalling and not triggering her till way later than her spawn :(