Fwiw my usual low aggro setup on my warrior raiding is 9/18 and 12/21. For high ac content it was reliably better than my garbage 30/35 2hander. Yesterday on some high ac velious raid targets the 2hander was out-performing the dual wield setup by a noticeable amount.

My warrior needs better ratio low threat weapons :(

At the risk of showing my lack of 2001 EQ knowledge, wasn't the Bo Staff of Trorsmang supposed to be changed with this last patch?

Parses please

devil's advocate: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=333453

How do the 1 hander parses compare to pre-patch? As you and I both noted earlier in the thread, the patch notes seem to indicate that the change to monk damage tables was a nerf, and my monk (using 1h) feels a little weaker at level 58 now. Although I can't recall exactly what my prior max hits with epic fist were, max hits with blam stick on KC trash are a little lower. At 60, how is your damage with 1handers compared to a week ago?

Edit to add a follow up question: is this change to the damage tables really classic, or was it an executive decision to try and keep monks (read: Kelz) from being too OP. My hazy recollection is that monks did stupid dps at the end of Vel/start of Luclin, and I played a pretty well geared rogue back then. Maybe I'm just off though. Given the rigid adherence to "Classic" on the interface front, to considerable community dismay, I would hope that the damage changes were similarly accurate.

Troxx, were you weapon swapping between swings for fist dmg?

I imagine dual wield is still better for us lazy monks that don't want to do that every round of combat.

I did some light testing yesterday + day before

My weapons:

Abashi's - 2hb

Fist of Nature / Fist of Lightning - 1hb's


First of all, 2h damage is SO much better now. As to be expected. I used to hit for 29 damage with my Abashi alllll the time. The lowest i've seen it post patch is maybe in the 50s? On green mobs in the overthere, i avg'd between 80 dps - 200 dps. Avg was probably 130-140. Testing it out on blues in sebilis (NG bugs+Friends), it does seem to be a lot more powerful than FoN/FoL while soloing(Which was not the case pre patch). DPS seem to avg 110-130. Which is riight around where i avg'd with FoN/FoL pre-patch. Abashi pre patch could avg as low as 70dps, as hitting for 29 dmg/misses really can drag you down if the RNG gods were unkind. I absolutely hit for 200+ damage A LOT more.

Testing it out on ToV trash/Lord Vyemm... seems like 2hb is still straight garbage. Low hits. A lot of misses.


With FoN/FoL, i felt like i could immediately tell that I was hitting for lower damage each swing. On green trash in the OT, i was hitting for the 40's 50's a lot, where as i felt like I hit for 70s-80s consistently pre patch. The DPS meter also reflected that, as I wasn't doing insane DPS against these trash mobs unless my FoN was proccing. Interestingly, I seemed to be doing pretty damn good DPS against Lord Vyemm last night, as I was top 5 in DPS on my meter at 85 before I was eaten. (with FoN/FoL ... NOT Abashi)


In Conclusion, I think it's safe to assume that 2hb will be king for everything outside of raids.


Note: I was mostly unbuffed during these tests, and weren't really tests, moreso me dicking around with weapons. Also to note, unbuffed, my str is 232, and I have 2 AoB effects (Doze mask + dain belt) + Ring 10.

Theres an easy place to parse for non-raid content. Bloodmaw in GD has ~50,000 hp and basically doesn't attack back. Using him with same buffs (epic haste + Avatar):

DW Wurmscale Fistwrap + Primal Fistwrap: 130dps
DW Epic Fist + Scepter of Mastery: 108dps
2H Trorsmang: 138dps
2H TStaff: 114dps (118dps including proc dmg @255dex)

Prior to this update TStaff only did ~80dps and Trorsmang ~100dps on Bloodmaw.

Did you swap out your 2 handers for fist swings in between 2H swing timer?

No. That's just the pure auto attack damage of each, no kicks etc.