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Naethyn 05-26-2017 03:37 PM

Wizard Tears line of spells are usually resisted if used on more than one target
 
Tears of Prexus
Tears of Druzzil
Tears of Solusek

The resist rate of these spells is far less if only one target is hit.

Bummey 06-26-2017 01:00 PM

Can you provide some logs showing this? Bug reports require a little more evidence than that if you want the admins to give you any attention at all.

Jimjam 07-01-2017 02:20 AM

Perhaps this is superstition, but there seems to be a hard coded limit on how many rains you can land before they start being auto resisted. I'm not sure what resets this, but refreshing snare nor landing melee hits certainly don't break the combo. Perhaps it is a time based thing? or just coincidence?


Just as evidence, I went to sea fury island to experiment there.

Sea furies con blue to my 52 wizard.

Here is a truncation of a typical fight trying to kill a blue con with rain. It starts okay, then just stops landing at all for about 20 waves.

Code:

[Sat Jul 01 09:08:50 2017] A seafury cyclops bashes YOU for 28 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:08:50 2017] A seafury cyclops hits YOU for 84 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:08:50 2017] A seafury cyclops hits YOU for 84 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:08:52 2017] A seafury cyclops hits YOU for 80 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:08:52 2017] A seafury cyclops hits YOU for 24 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:09:07 2017] You begin casting Enstill.
[Sat Jul 01 09:09:09 2017] A seafury cyclops's feet adhere to the ground.
[Sat Jul 01 09:09:11 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:09:15 2017] Your Enstill spell has worn off.
[Sat Jul 01 09:09:15 2017] a seafury cyclops was hit by non-melee for 600 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:02 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:07 2017] a seafury cyclops was hit by non-melee for 600 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:07 2017] A seafury cyclops's skin blisters as the tears of Druzzil rain upon them..
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:09 2017] a seafury cyclops was hit by non-melee for 600 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:09 2017] A seafury cyclops's skin blisters as the tears of Druzzil rain upon them..
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:10 2017] A seafury cyclops's feet adhere to the ground.
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:12 2017] a seafury cyclops was hit by non-melee for 600 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:12 2017] A seafury cyclops's skin blisters as the tears of Druzzil rain upon them..
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:22 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:27 2017] a seafury cyclops was hit by non-melee for 600 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:27 2017] A seafury cyclops's skin blisters as the tears of Druzzil rain upon them..
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:30 2017] a seafury cyclops was hit by non-melee for 600 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:30 2017] A seafury cyclops's skin blisters as the tears of Druzzil rain upon them..
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:32 2017] a seafury cyclops was hit by non-melee for 600 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:32 2017] A seafury cyclops's skin blisters as the tears of Druzzil rain upon them..
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:41 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:46 2017] a seafury cyclops was hit by non-melee for 600 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:46 2017] A seafury cyclops's skin blisters as the tears of Druzzil rain upon them..
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:48 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:10:51 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:11:05 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:11:10 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:11:13 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:11:15 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:11:24 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:11:29 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:11:31 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:11:34 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:11:43 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:11:48 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:11:51 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:11:53 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:12:07 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:12:12 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:12:15 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:12:47 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:12:52 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:12:55 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:12:57 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:13:53 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:13:58 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:14:01 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:14:03 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:15:33 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:15:38 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:15:40 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:15:43 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:16:32 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:16:37 2017] a seafury cyclops was hit by non-melee for 600 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:16:37 2017] A seafury cyclops's skin blisters as the tears of Druzzil rain upon them..
[Sat Jul 01 09:16:37 2017] You have slain a seafury cyclops!
[Sat Jul 01 09:16:37 2017] You gain experience!!


And a second fight to show there is a pattern and not a freak:

Code:

[Sat Jul 01 09:30:18 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:30:23 2017] a seafury cyclops was hit by non-melee for 600 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:30:23 2017] A seafury cyclops's skin blisters as the tears of Druzzil rain upon them..
[Sat Jul 01 09:30:36 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:30:41 2017] a seafury cyclops was hit by non-melee for 600 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:30:41 2017] A seafury cyclops's skin blisters as the tears of Druzzil rain upon them..
[Sat Jul 01 09:30:44 2017] a seafury cyclops was hit by non-melee for 600 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:30:44 2017] A seafury cyclops's skin blisters as the tears of Druzzil rain upon them..
[Sat Jul 01 09:30:56 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:31:01 2017] a seafury cyclops was hit by non-melee for 600 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:31:01 2017] A seafury cyclops's skin blisters as the tears of Druzzil rain upon them..
[Sat Jul 01 09:31:03 2017] a seafury cyclops was hit by non-melee for 600 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:31:03 2017] A seafury cyclops's skin blisters as the tears of Druzzil rain upon them..
[Sat Jul 01 09:31:06 2017] a seafury cyclops was hit by non-melee for 600 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:31:06 2017] A seafury cyclops's skin blisters as the tears of Druzzil rain upon them..
[Sat Jul 01 09:31:14 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:31:19 2017] a seafury cyclops was hit by non-melee for 600 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:31:19 2017] A seafury cyclops's skin blisters as the tears of Druzzil rain upon them..
[Sat Jul 01 09:31:21 2017] a seafury cyclops was hit by non-melee for 600 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:31:21 2017] A seafury cyclops's skin blisters as the tears of Druzzil rain upon them..
[Sat Jul 01 09:31:24 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:31:32 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:31:37 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:31:40 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:31:42 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:31:52 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:31:57 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:32:00 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:32:02 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:32:29 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:32:34 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:32:36 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:32:39 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:33:01 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:33:06 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:33:08 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:33:11 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:33:33 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:33:38 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:33:41 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:33:43 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:35:04 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:35:09 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:35:11 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:35:14 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:36:09 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:36:14 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:36:17 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:36:19 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:37:55 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:38:00 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:38:03 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:38:06 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:39:17 2017] You begin casting Tears of Druzzil.
[Sat Jul 01 09:39:22 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:39:24 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:39:27 2017] Your target resisted the Tears of Druzzil spell.
[Sat Jul 01 09:40:12 2017] You begin casting Inferno Shock.
[Sat Jul 01 09:40:16 2017] a seafury cyclops was hit by non-melee for 250 points of damage.
[Sat Jul 01 09:40:16 2017] A seafury cyclops's skin ignites.
[Sat Jul 01 09:40:16 2017] You have slain a seafury cyclops!
[Sat Jul 01 09:40:16 2017] You gain experience!!

Note I ran out of C and time on the second fight so had to finish the mob with a normal nuke after snare broke. Again 8 hits from the waves then just a huge string of resists.

I think the max 8 hits per cast has somehow been corrupted to be 8 hits max spread across several casts. Perhaps until 8x4 waves have happened?

Bushido 07-01-2017 11:10 AM

didn't they change the coding sometime so that it does this? i forgot when or why the change happened though.

Jimjam 07-01-2017 11:12 AM

I think it is meant to be a max number of hits on a single cast, not spread over many casts though.

Jimjam 07-02-2017 02:25 AM

I have discovered the source of the bug I was facing (many resists in a row on a single mob).


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August 26, 2003
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- AE Rain Spells were resisted 100% of the time when an NPC was above
level 20 and had less than 10% of its hit points left. This will no
longer happen.


Which Haynar mentions is implemented:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haynar
Rains also couldn't get kill shots. Can't remember when I saw the patch note about that changing.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...=199071&page=2

OP were any of the mobs (or your pet) you were raining low on HP when you cast the spell? Perhaps this is what was triggering the forced resists?

Naethyn 04-15-2020 02:17 PM

Bump


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