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White_knight 07-01-2020 05:14 PM

'Merica's decline isn't Trumps fault (outsiders view)
 
Let's air the dirty laundry out.

1. 'Merica has turned themselves into the laughing stock of the world.
2. It isn't Trumps fault.
3. Ironically he's actually the best thing you have going.

So why do 'Mericans like to blame him for every little speed bump? Especially after 8 years of turds like Obama who was one of the worse presidents ever.

Discuss.

Baler 07-01-2020 05:41 PM

Reddit removes Trump sub reddit, leaves anti-white, antifa and porno sub reddits in tact.
Twitch bans trump
Twitter hates trump
Mods on this forum will lock this thread

Guess who the president of the USA will still be in 2021 :cool:

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America is no longer innovating like it did in past decades.
The internet helped push people into believing others think like they do, even when they're the minority or worse fringe.
People living off the system who don't need to be is also a problem.

None of what we consider downfall started with trump and both political parties have failed America. He's just the here and now. People voice their opinions online thinking it matters so they can be justified in their way of thinking.
The age of cellphones and internet is doing just as much good as it is bad. Double edged sword.

And people need to listen to all sides. If you close your eyes and ears ignoring what your "opponent" is saying then you've become brainwashed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxYSW4Zz9iY

Lune 07-01-2020 05:50 PM

#1 and #2 are correct, #3 is not.

Donald Trump is objectively the worst US president in 100 years, yes that includes Nixon, Carter, and Reagan. However, he is a symptom, not a cause. He is the manifestation of a streak of retardation that has run through this country's population since long before its inception.

We are wannabe rugged individualists in a world dominated by far more effective societies run by collectivist cultures. This shows most recently in our embarrassing handling of the coronavirus pandemic where vast swathes of the country couldn't be counted on for social responsibility and civic duty as simple as wearing a fucking mask around other people.

It also shows in how profoundly bad we are, and always have been, at war. Our war machine was fought to a stalemate by a token force of too-young and too-old German garrison units speckled with a few under-equipped panzer, SS, and wehrmacht divisions on WW2's Western front while the Soviets won the war.

Defeated in Korea

Defeated in Vietnam

Defeated in Afghanistan

Barely won the Civil War in spite of massive asymmetry in manpower and industrial output. Look how long it took the Union to wade through all the idiots high up in the military (Scott, McClellan, Pope, Burnside, Hooker, before arriving at a mediocre general in Grant.)

Barely survived the war of 1812 in spite of being an obscure theater of a massive coalition war.

Barely survived the revolutionary war in spite of being an obscure theater of a massive coalition war.

If the United States as it currently stands ever actually gets into a shooting war with a competent enemy it will be so thoroughly disastrous and traumatic to the national psyche that it will be remembered as our Battle of Cannae. For some clues on this, look up how our Navy performs in war-games, look at how each great power has handled the development of next-gen JSF's, or talk to any honest and intelligent person who has been an officer in our military. There are few advantages to our high degree of individualism and martial prowess is not one of them.

Running a prosperous and equitable modern nation-state requires a higher degree of civic responsibility and cultural homogeneity than the USA possesses, as evidenced by the superior outcomes obtained by pretty much all our developed peers, even fascist China.

This country is a failed experiment that has only passably worked for the short periods of its lifespan where individualists (the GOP, essentially) were totally disenfranchised. Eisenhower doesn't count, as he was a collectivist.

Kennie 07-01-2020 05:54 PM

Donald Trump is subjectively* the worst US president in 100 years.

Kennie 07-01-2020 05:55 PM

America is still great it's just whinier than ever. See post by Lune to confirm.

Woke Locc 07-01-2020 06:06 PM

Obama was the worst until Trump came along, now Trump is the worst.

I can prove this mathematically.

Baler 07-01-2020 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woke Locc (Post 3150939)
Obama was the worst until Trump came along, now Trump is the worst.

I can prove this mathematically.

Bush 2 was the worst before Obama

:rolleyes:

deception
: the act of causing someone to accept as true or valid what is false or invalid
: the act of deceiving

agenda
subject

Think about who is telling you information and why they are telling you that information. Regardless of where you stand.

Woke Locc 07-01-2020 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baler (Post 3150940)
Bush 2 was the worst before Obama

:rolleyes:

deception
: the act of causing someone to accept as true or valid what is false or invalid
: the act of deceiving

agenda
subject

Think about who is telling you information and why they are telling you that information. Regardless of where you stand.

It's not deceitful if it's true.

Baler 07-01-2020 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woke Locc (Post 3150942)
It's not deceitful if it's true.

I was agreeing with you and expanding on your point.

Someone out there has an agenda to make you a subject and they're doing that through deception.
This is one reason why every president is 'the worst'. People listen and don't question then repeat what they were told or learned from their environment.

Snortles Chortles 07-01-2020 06:47 PM

https://i.imgur.com/ss6tnke.jpg


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