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Treants in SK - one or two camps?

Basically the title...

Mostly I see players share the Treants, but every so often someone is claiming it is one camp. So, what it is?

(asking for a friend) ;)

Unless I'm very mistaken, SK is an outdoor zone, which means you get to claim one (1) spawn... not camp... spawn.

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Originally Posted by Sabin76 (Post 3180453)

Unless I'm very mistaken, SK is an outdoor zone, which means you get to claim one (1) spawn... not camp... spawn.

Thank you! Yes, that was my understanding. Anyone thinks different?

https://wiki.project1999.com/Play_nice_policy

Yeah i think that maybe this wording here says that they can be a single camp, but it doesnt say anything about the outdoor rule or only being able to camp a single spawn, so that rule may be a bit of a myth?

No distinction on indoor or outdoor rules at all on that wiki page. So /shrug

"In general, if the placeholder or placeholders for a spawn are being killed, that 'camp' can be considered held by the player doing the killing so long as they are keeping the placeholders (or the room if there are no placeholders) cleared, within the same zone, do not die or log off."

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Originally Posted by Jibartik (Post 3180458)

Ahh, thank you! So, it is not clear cut then.

always considered them one camp on blue /shrug

sisters in lfay are outdoor too but considered a camp. if someone doesnt wanna share, guess one of you will have to petition

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2.1 Zone types in relation to camps.

There are two main zone types.

Open Outdoor Zones and Dungeon Type Zones that have their own sets of guidelines.

Open Outdoor Zones can be anything from Western Wastes, Karanas or West Commons. There are no staff recognized camps for this zone type outside of single spawn points. Examples of single spawn types might be Ocean of Tears Ancient Cyclops, Iceclad Ocean Stormfeather, or Qeynos Hills Hadden. Though, any single spawn point can be claimed, that is the only spawn you can hunt (if being contested). If you are to claim this point you must get aggro/First to Encounter (FTE) within a reasonable amount of time.

There are cases where two or more parties wish to hunt in the same area. In these cases, the parties are required to compromise. Do not attack a mob after another player, this is kill stealing.

Dungeon Type Zones are characterized as a zone which has very few open areas. These types of zones may include Sebilis, City of Mist, Unrest or High Keep (See section 2 above). For the most part you can claim what's Line of Sight (LOS)/Aggro Range. A couple exemptions to the LOS/Aggro range guideline may be Sebilis Spore King and Karnor Captain where camping within LOS/Aggro is just not practical.

For these types of zones camps are usually dictated by the geometry. You may absolutely hunt multiple camps if no one else is contesting them. Once another party shows up asking for one of your camps it is your decision which camp you wish to claim, then they can then have their choice.

Again, If an equitable compromise cannot be reached between the players prior to Project 1999 Customer Service Staff involvement, the P99CSR will mandate a compromise. Any such compromise is final and not open to debate. Refusing to abide by these terms will be considered disruption and may result in disciplinary action.

Note: A "party" in this case is defined as a party of one or more characters that are united in a common belief or goal and are capable of completing that goal.

There is a difference between player recognized camps and Staff recognized camp's. Staff knows many of the player defined camps that don't fit fully within our rules are readily honored by most players. 9/10 Its best to discuss with other players and come to compromise when hunting in the same area.

Tldr; two camps, 1 for each static spawn point (open outdoor zone)

Gotta use your best judgement. Although everything outdoor (besides the outdoor dungeons like CT, Unrest, etc.) is a single spawn rule, there are some 'unwritten rule' camps where u just leave the person who's camping them alone. Examples of these would be Toll Booth in West Commonlands, Sisters Hut in OOT, Bandit sisters in Lfay (as previously mentioned).

But other things (like say the Paw Gnoll spires in SK) are definitely one spawn camp rule. Unless you have the mid spire. I don't know. There's definitely some mathematical nerdquation that considers number of spawns and their proximity to each other to determine what's a camp and what's not.

Call an elf lawyer.

it is 2 separate spawns. if 2 people want to camp one spawn each, that is what it is.