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Twainz 12-22-2020 12:29 AM

Nerf Bowquest 99
 
Why am I able to do this much damage this fast on a Troll Warrior with a Weighted Axe. I'm legit a machine gun fighting kids with knives.

[Mon Dec 21 23:16:05 2020] You hit Symbiotic for 139 points of damage.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:07 2020] You can't see your target from here.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:09 2020] Your feet move faster.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:10 2020] You think you are heading SouthWest.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:11 2020] Your target resisted the Spirit Strike spell.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:14 2020] You hit Gstring for 132 points of damage.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:16 2020] Gstring was hit by non-melee for 54 points of damage.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:16 2020] Gstring staggers as spirits of frost slam against them.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:16 2020] You hit Gstring for 134 points of damage.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:17 2020] Your target resisted the Spirit Strike spell.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:20 2020] You hit Gstring for 111 points of damage.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:20 2020] Your target resisted the Spirit Strike spell.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:21 2020] You hit Gstring for 142 points of damage.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:21 2020] Your target resisted the Spirit Strike spell.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:24 2020] Meatwad Scores a critical hit!(40)
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:24 2020] You hit Gstring for 150 points of damage.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:24 2020] Your target resisted the Spirit Strike spell.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:25 2020] You hit Gstring for 162 points of damage.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:25 2020] You slow down.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:25 2020] Your target resisted the Spirit Strike spell.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:26 2020] You hit Gstring for 159 points of damage.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:29 2020] You hit Gstring for 131 points of damage.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:29 2020] Your target is too close to use a ranged weapon!!
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:30 2020] Deighre lets loose a piercing blast.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:31 2020] Your target is too close to use a ranged weapon!!
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:31 2020] Baugi begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:33 2020] Deighre's song ends abruptly.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:34 2020] You try to hit Gstring, but miss!
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:34 2020] Baugi's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:35 2020] You hit Gstring for 133 points of damage.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:37 2020] You try to hit Gstring, but miss!
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:38 2020] Gstring was hit by non-melee for 54 points of damage.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:38 2020] Gstring staggers as spirits of frost slam against them.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:38 2020] You hit Gstring for 132 points of damage.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:38 2020] Deighre lets loose a piercing blast.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:39 2020] You try to hit Gstring, but miss!
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:40 2020] You hit Gstring for 113 points of damage.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:41 2020] Your target resisted the Spirit Strike spell.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:42 2020] You hit Gstring for 153 points of damage.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:43 2020] You hit Gstring for 111 points of damage.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:44 2020] You hit Gstring for 141 points of damage.
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:46 2020] You try to hit Gstring, but miss!
[Mon Dec 21 23:16:47 2020] You hit Gstring for 118 points of damage.

Baugi 12-22-2020 08:19 AM

Already posted here - https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=370070
and here - https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=374280
(by other members of <Apex>)

Please stop spamming the bug forum with new threads.

Gustoo 12-22-2020 12:03 PM

Nice to see the log. Looks really fun I can't believe its been this way for so long.

Jeni 12-22-2020 02:02 PM

We should brainstorm a way for blue players to abuse this and then post it over there so it will actually get looked at and fixed by the devs. They don't even open any forum with the word red or pvp in the title.

Jibartik 12-22-2020 02:10 PM

Its easy to fix but shutting off the box :o

Gustoo 12-22-2020 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeni (Post 3233040)
We should brainstorm a way for blue players to abuse this and then post it over there so it will actually get looked at and fixed by the devs. They don't even open any forum with the word red or pvp in the title.

Well for 1 an SK can be a vastly overpowered bow kiter. Is it possible that this could circumvent the damage cap below level 30 so a big boy could use a weighted axe, a fast bow and be bowing NPC's for 100's, sub level 30?

And also, I think you are right with your creative solution to this problem. Thing is even if fixed is developed it might not get applied to red. Like how red still can't duck to instant interrupt spells despite being timeline appropriate to be able to do so, and like how green never had that ability taken from them, despite the timeline saying that they should not be able to cancel spell casts with ducks.

=/ so you can't count on your trick working, but its a good trick anyways.

Anyone got a blue toon to test, and then post results? Almost no one even equips a weighted axe on blue (or green) so there is a good chance no one has ever used a bow and arrow with it equipped, and if they did its a small chance they noticed the relationship between the bow damage and the use of the axe. Only on PVP do the limits of the game actually get explored, because they actually matter :( thanks for being the good R&D team red players.

Baugi 12-23-2020 06:38 AM

It's not super relevant for PVE because your hit rate goes way down. The underlying issue for PVP is the non-classic dex-based accuracy formula which does weird things at the high end. Unfortunately, I don't think we have any era-appropriate logs to recommend a new formula (and the current one is fairly opaque).

Gustoo 12-23-2020 12:16 PM

The delay of your main hand weapon impacts bow damage.

You can use the lowest delay bow you can get your hands on, and your minimum hit is still over 100 when using a weighted axe.

So to abuse this in PVE you would be bow kiting with an ogre warrior or something.

My question about the base bow damage with a weighted axe could be most impactful if you can exceed level damage caps on sub 20 or sub 30 characters it would be pretty powerful.

But no one is testing it right now. I could ALMOST go test it on blue assuming someone in EC has a weighted axe to sell me. But golly gee, I might just not get around to it!

Maybe though. Wednesday is my free day.

Mortdecai99 12-23-2020 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustoo (Post 3233087)
...red still can't duck to instant interrupt spells despite being timeline appropriate to be able to do so...

yes you can

Zipity 12-23-2020 10:51 PM

Does this effect throwing items too?


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