You also have to break into hate or sneak up there for the Rogue epic. When ALS did my epic, we weren't strong enough as a guild to consistently break into Hate, so I did it the sneaky thieving way, which honestly did feel like a pretty epic roguey thing to do.

Ah, memories. We had a 24 man raid force for General V`Gheera, and our main tank was level 53 with like 4000 buffed HP. We ended up running a 3 second chain to keep him up during the fight and succeeded on our second try.

I would be a little surprised if Rogue epics weren't relatively common back in the day. Once someone figures out the quest and the details are online, its not too hard. I would be surprised if people were completing it with 6-10 people or buying MQs on live back in classic, but I would expect most good sized guilds should be able to do what ALS did here.

ALS kept a list of our epics in order on blue, which I thought was kind of interesting since it pretty clearly showed how hard it was to do the different types (though also some amount of how popular classes were). Order of completion
for first epic of each type was:
Rogue (1)
Ranger (Swiftwind) (3)
Monk (4)
Druid (6)
Cleric (7)
Shaman (8)
Enchanter (9)
Necromancer (16)
Ranger (Earthcaller) (19)
Paladin (21)
Shadowknight (30)
Wizard (32)
Warrior (48)
Bard (60)

And, to bring us back around to the topic at hand, ALS never got a Mage epic.

If my memories are any good, most if not all general fights back then (that is, pre-Luclin) were solid zergfests with tanks (and not tanks) dying left and right, lots of ressing going on in-between fights, and a bunch of tired but happy rogues at the end of the night.

Often it was a multi-guild event. Fun times.

FTE, poop-sock or pixels did not exist as concepts, yet.

I’ve fallen in and out of characters and even p99 many times. It’s always there when you need if. Stripped and re-geared my ranger 3 times before getting my Swiftwind at 58.

Pixel thirst is real. Likely you won’t get the best stuff unless you play an unhealthy amount or are extremely lucky. It wouldn’t hurt to bounce back and forth to the mage. At 60 it’s going to be very useful and powerful epic or not.

what in the casual heck are you talking about?

Yeah maybe for some people, probably the minority.

What are you disagreeing with, exactly?

just join riot and save 1000 dkp for it at all times, ez

You can get it just have to join a raiding guild, be an active mage for your guild and keep look out on the staff. Don't let players who haven't got their staff make you think it's unachievable hehe.

And this is why you lose at EQ before you even rolled your first character. No pixels will ever satisfy you. Learn. Improve. Find out what EQ is really about...

or surrender and go play on live where you can instance a whole hate plane for yourself and finish your epic in a few days. Same pixels, right? Why does it matter?

{Also, you can get your epic without any guild at all on blue. I've done it for my chars: necro and bard being the hardest slog of it...its doable, but I still say quitting a char just b/c you think its going to take you a couple years to finish your epic is exactly what makes EQ so great. Tough it out or go the easy way.}

Yeah definitely don't quit your char because it...because if you want it bad enough, you'll get it. Just may take a little time.

disagree

i looted my vulak robe and left the game