yea but you are totally ignoring one very important thing. Reality.

The reality is, the world isnt ready nor interested in liberal ideology that is tentamount to religion. We dont want to be a society that fits into 1 social group made up of grey colors out of respect to other colors not able to be as vibrant as the few.

Say what you will about the free market, but it created the industrial revolution which basically ended 2000 years of starvation, disease and poverty, in about less than 100 so..

Also the world is diverse, not all of it wants to think like a liberal. Infact, if you are a liberal and want to be around people who are like minded why shoot oneself in the foot by trying to convince cowboys that they should be computer programmers? Why dont they just move to europe if they like it so much?

Americans, both liberal and libertarian alike have conflated many of the actual meanings of everything, so its all fucked up round these parts.

Plain and simple way to think is, stop trying to turn america into something that it doesnt want to be, I have news for you, republicans rule this country and democrats dont.

Its like any family, the parrents, work, pay the bills, provide the food, while the kids provide funny dance moves they learned in their school and show off their participation trophies before reluctantly doing their homework and playing video games for the rest of the night.

Mean while the republicans keep on actually DOING things and keeping the lights on.

Democrats and liberals alike are just hopped up children that have illusions of grandeur.

Sure, it'd be great if we could all breathe under water, but we're humans, we cant. You dig?

another way to think of it is, the prime directive.

Liberals may be right, sure if we were 1 hive mind and didnt think differently from each other, we'd all be fucking getting along fine and progressing into the future. But we're not ready for that hooey so, dont try to impose it, if thats what we're supposed to do, well fucking do it naturally. Anything else, like forcing it, results in the end of society... or simple complete failure, like you saw with 8 years of obummer.

Gotta edit in this tho

Are you familier with the concepts of war? There is one simple variable that really matters. The army who has more people is the army that wins. Russia was able to essentially destroy the German army with untrained un-armed soldiers.

Gumption, intelligence, fortitude, all the things it takes to be a "john lock" libertarian are RARE in the gene pool. Not only can genetics fuck it up, but so can bad parenting, or great parenting cut short by bad luck, like a car accident or cancer or something.

Its much easier to boon stupid idiots. And so theyve increased in numbers by the millions. Just becuse there are a lot of em, dont make em right.

The "john lock libertarian" literally built society. They'll rebuild it if they have to.

The right tend to side with the wealthy either out of admiration or pride. The poor on the right align themselves with the wealthy so that they too may be a part of the winning team. They can speak proudly of what "they" collectively have done. The better to do on the right look back on hardship throughout their lives and are proud of where they have persevered when they might have thought it not possible. They view their good fortune as a direct result of their perseverance and argue that anyone else who realizes poorer results just isn't trying hard enough.

The left side with the poor either out of a sense of superiority or guilt. The poor and average on the left side with the poor because it demonstrates their superiority of their station. They are able to mitigate a nagging sense of inferiority by replacing it with one of superiority in helping others who are less fortunate. The more well to do on the left, align themselves with the poor because they feel poorly about the decisions they've made and wish to give back in some small one as atonement for those they've wronged in their climb to the top. One does not climb to the top without stepping on others.

The problem is, society needs neither the poor nor the wealthy and one is no more worthy of subsidy than the other. Both are equally detrimental to man's advancement. The poor lack whatever it is that is needed to meaningfully contribute to society whether it is due to their own action/inaction, the cruelty of nature, that of their god, or the almighty FSM. Success on the other hand is a factor of one attribute that is of limited value to society and most often only beneficial to the individual: the ability to influence others. It is unrelated to intellect, talent or genetic fitness. It is a mechanism by which inferior conditions may thrive at the expense of others.

The greatest happiness may only be purchased with the everlasting guilt of responsible conduct.

This had me rolling. Thanks!

eggsactly.

Why would anyone align themselves with the losing team? Just because in a fictional universe where humans behave only like ants and yet somehow still celebrate cultural minorities, sounds like some kind of utopia? Is daydreaming about that and calling it 'contributing' worth being thought of as a total fucking failure by your friends and family simply so you can call them racist behind their backs?

Count me out.

This is also 100% true. But where the guilt comes from is often miss diagnosed by both them and everyone else.

The guilt of a liberal truely comes from the fact that, deep down, secretly, they lied to you when they told you they were going to work at the soup kitchen after work.

Deep down they know they really have NO idea how American politics actually work, let alone international.

They know the church on the regular does more for people who actually need help than theyeve ever even donated on Patreon.

They still havent admitted that they didnt vote in any of obama's midtersm, and even if they did, they arent really sure for who because they just used that "pissed off voter guide" again.

Funny thing about libs is, they tend to so often fall into the creative field. Why? Becuse they are narcasists that cant enjoy things that other people create, they think they should be the ones creating everything. They want to be in films and stream video games. They want to be the best at raiding and playing everquest. (Notice in EQ like IRL the top dogs, tend to skew pretty fucking conservative)

No the guilt doesnt come from "White Privlage".. They litearlly see it as reperations. They feel that their guilt, absolves them from the sins of the past. From not knowing what is going on. Of all the nights they binged watched LOST and BSG daydreaming about a super progressive utopian future, impossible, if it werent for those medling republicans! Always WINNING in elections! Always RUNNING THE COUNTRY!

They realize, they cant win. They dont work for it. They're the melinails THEY complain about. They cant stand loud noises and the outside world! They love humans, but hate humanity.

Theyre a mess. And they know it.

I don't think you really care about politics. I think you have an ideology (statistically speaking, it was the same as your parents) and wish to defend that ideology.

War is far more complicated than "whoever has the most people wins." It never was that simple in any era ever.

John Locke certainly didn't "literally create" any society. He simply influenced the generation that was around when America gained it's independence.

Genetics are not nearly as good a predictor of success than the socioeconomic status of the family. Not to mention that it simply isn't the case that two low IQ parents never produce high IQ children. Nor is it true that intelligence is anything more than correlated with success....so is being tall...

So please, don't flatter yourself as some neutral observer of "reality." Its pretty clear there are many elements to your opinion that have no basis in reality whatsoever. Especially the part about most people wanting the country to be the way it is.

Libertarians have always been around 7-15% of the population...with the 7% being those that actually call themselves libertarian compared to the 15% that includes those that don't even know they are. Meanwhile, the latest poll shows 43% of Americans under 30 had a favorable view of socialism and 23% percent of Americans older than 65 had a positive view of socialism.

Left leaning people do cram social issues down the throat of America a lot -- despite that they don't agree. That is true. But the opposite is true for economics. Right-wing wealthy people constantly are shoving a economic ideology down people's throat that they don't want. You just happen to be the minority that agrees with them...seemingly based on little actual evidence that its the best way to run an economy in 2017.

Capitalism is simply a phase in history. Capitalism replaced feudalism when people realized that God didn't actually want the King the own all the land. Capitalism (as we know it) will die when people realize that it concentrates wealth until we become a plutocracy. It happening exactly like Marx said it would -- in advanced countries like Germany and America -- machines are replacing labor and we don't really need a bunch of corporate lawyers suing each other so we can all work 12 hours a day for fun...we can create the level of goods we have with a much smaller work week.

See: The rise of bullshit jobs

hey if most people didnt want the country to be the way it is, tell me about why libtards get chased out of every town they have ever been in until they run into the ocean then decide to set up camp along the water cus they cant go any further and call it a "victory"

Sure capatalisim is a phase in history. So is horse riding. Breathing one day likely will. So will dieing. Doesnt make them any less of a reality.

Capitalisim made the human race what it is. Sorry. Thats just reality agian. Supply/demand. Has done more GOOD than literally any other governance in the history of mankind.

We MAY phase it out, sure! But dude, FORCING it out? lmao thats a fools errand.

LIbs tend to be fools, so you see them trying to run that errand A LOT and it fails, every time.

One thing I love about libs is how they love to point out how great these scandanavian countries, or canadian countries are, but ignore that they been pumping out all the black shit they spend the other half of their day crying about, to PAY for everything they think comes "free" with goverment.

Lastly, keep telling yourself that the majority wants some anti system bullshit. Keep telling yourself that, and youll keep getting upset over nothing.

Its what kids do, and thats all liberals are, kids.

The point is in the third paragraph. Aligning oneself with either side is ill advised because both are detrimental to society. We can blame the rich for being greedy, uncaring, callous or downright evil. We can blame the poor for being lazy, stupid, whiney or downright worthless. We can attribute wealth to inequitable environments, luck or underhandedness. We can attribute poverty to oppression, lack of opportunity, or inequitable environments.

At the end of the day though the poor are poor and the rich are rich. Neither are good for society and it should come as no surprise that allocating resources to either will yield more of it.

I'm done until you get some facts to go with your bs opinions.