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DMN 03-07-2021 11:41 AM

messed up stats on grobb guards
 
Why are the grobb guards such as kigak, gabuku, and namrun have such absurdly high HP for their level? Why is namrun blue to a level 60 but still only hit for like 95ish damage? Why is basher Uvgin a shaman?(apparently he is listed as shaman in some modern lists but i havent seen any old logs/info about). Maybe this zone and the guards were always wacky like this. Uvgin being an SK might make sense, but a shaman? I wonder where this info came from and if there is anyway to check the classic time period.

Kavious 03-07-2021 01:49 PM

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=5570

DMN 03-07-2021 02:38 PM

That doesn't say anything about where the current information on NPCs comes from.

Dolalin 03-07-2021 04:50 PM

I recently checked several classic npc stats sheets and dumps into my eq-archives. They should all have stats of mobs in grobb. Fictitiousname9 dumps from geocities were definitely a source for p99 but you can cross reference with npc-list-level.xlsx.

https://github.com/dbsanfte/eq-archi...ster/npc_dumps

DMN 03-07-2021 05:22 PM

So thats the list you think that was used?

If so many of the guards have way too many hit points in comparison to the listed numbers.

Gabaku for instance on that list should have around 1700 HP, but he instead has approximately 4500 on green currently, close to 300% higher hps. There is a nearly identical discrepancy in other bashers too, such is scintok, thintan and kigak, who, too, have aroudnd 4.5k.

Didn't have time to test the rest but some of them clearly have massively boosted HP for some unknown reason.

Dolalin 03-07-2021 05:34 PM

There are many sites around the internet that reference the fictitiousname9 site, it was the primary source for most "zone npc lists" from Kunark onward. Before that, there was the Zone-NPC-List-Level sheet compiled by the HackersQuest guys (which only had original zones obviously).

The fictitiousname9 site was used for P99 I am pretty sure, but I only recently dug up the Zone-NPC-List-Level.xls one. So if you see that hp stats agree between the two, but they differ from P99, I'd say that's very good evidence that P99 is wrong.

Telin 03-07-2021 06:03 PM

Fixed, pending update.

Dolalin 03-07-2021 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telin (Post 3270637)
Fixed, pending update.

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DMN 03-12-2021 05:20 PM

Their drop table might be messed up too. Every other race guard in the game seems to randomly spawn with FS weapons but it seems the grobb guards don't. I don't have a massive sample size just killed them for a bit but it seems grobb guards never have them.

Telin 03-12-2021 09:25 PM

They have a smaller chance to drop fine steel, otherwise it's a long sword and round shield. If you have evidence that it should be different, post it.


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