nilbog, do you even science?
 

I understand that you don't want to experiment on red with item loot. I know one can cite valid reasons such as why implement it late in the lifespan of a server that has a bubble of kunark and god loot on it, I get it. So I'd like to highlight a suggestion/solution to perhaps appeal to all concerned parties, a solution I saw posted elsewhere but felt it deemed its own thread, and is as follows.

Launch a beta server. Populate said server with character copies from red. Engage in pre-experimentation in item loot varients, bagging varients, no drop tags, etc. As nirgon said, one doesn't experiment with a pizza recipe by dumping chocolate all over it, one would add a droplet or two to a bite sized portion, taste, and continue.

This is why we should test the most controversial issues, such as item loot, concurrently with continuing resist fixes, and even before team composition testing. Frankly, additional feedback that would come from more pvp engagements on a beta server may provide to be more useful than current red99 feedback. The forums are a good indication that the natives are restless, and while I understand that Velious is the main effort at the moment, lets start examining mechanics (such as item loot variants be they random, RZ, or darktide) sooner, rather than later.

TLDR (not even worth giffing)

*really bad structure, hard to attempt to read

** it's clear your mad at Nirgon from thread title

*** would have been easier for you to say "Nirgon I'm very mad at you." and in thread body say "Because your not a proponent of my really cool item loot trolly ideas."

**** Nirgon is a proponent of a stable and well maintained project, not one that randomly caters to the whims of the popular majority.

Mr wizard says if item loot is such a great thing than people would be dying to have it whether their server was old or not

Also, I'm dieing to have trivial loot code implemented on your happy fun box that will save your egos.

Before you begin criticizing my post, lets examine the last hour in your life.

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you took a shit here.

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and so on, for about 6 straight hours in this fashion.

Website was down a sec/ddos. (I did not get up to shit)

P.S. my criticism still stands. Forumquest srs business.

apparently, seeing as you're giving yourself bedsores and hemorrhoids over it.

Your time stamps are for 2hr and like 10 minutes. If you go from 10:00pm to midnight.

That's hardly EQ poopsock territory. I do other things while spamming. * most people watch a few hrs of T.V. every day. ** including poopsockers and forumquesters *** I'm way to fuckin hip for T.V. I watch youtube.

also **** two monitors *** hurrrdurrr

God i havent missed the annoying trolls of P99 i gotta admit

I think the OPs idea is a good one

The funniest thing is this is a thread about nilbog and not Nirgon :p and no one even stopped to argue that.

The idea is an old one.

**** P.SSSSSSS.PLS.P.S > The OP is the ORIGINAL < heroic troll of the EQ pvps apparently he's some legendary fella

* and it's not a bad idea, but kind of up in the air with the staffs discretion...

If you allow copies, you wont really get the benefit of "science" you will just see what end game will look like on a low population box.