Project 1999 - Miscellaneous: Sword of Runes shouldn't have Ward Summoned effect until October 1999 (+other items)

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Sword of Runes shouldn't have Ward Summoned effect until October 1999 (+other items)

There are a few different mage summoned items here that need to be tweaked actually:

Quote:

18/10/1999

"Star Wars Sucks" <please...@nospam.com> wrote:
> I have heard that magician's summoned weapons have gotten an update.
Could
> someone please list the weapons and their stats? I am only level 21
right
> now, but I would be interested in learning the stats for the higher
level
> weapons as well as the ones I got now. Thank you very much, the spells
are
> expensive to me, so far I have only gotten summon arrows at
3dmg50range.err
> range not orange.
>
>

They did improve, but most of them are still pretty worthless. Most of
them just got a few more charges added to them. I.e. Staff of Runes(i
think it was staff of runes) now has 5 charges of Gaze instead of 2.
The non-staves also now have 'magical' properties. Most of them have
pretty insignificant stuff like +5 vs fire, or on the level 34 summoned
dagger +5 vs disease, poison, and magic. None of them have stat
bonuses. The damage/delay stats have all remained the same. The only
one that I think was really that greatly improved was the Sword of
Runes. It now procs Ward Summoned, which isn't bad. If only the rest
could be equivalent. Somehow, a +5 vs fire, and cold for a level 20, or
24 spell doesn't particularly enthuse me.

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https://groups.google.com/d/topic/al...lT8/discussion

The patch that improved them is this one on October 13, 1999:

Quote:

Spell Enhancements

* Some of the Items that Magicians summon with their spells have been made better or had their effects increased.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Patch_N...l_Enhancements

I propose the following changes based on this evidence:

* Sword of Runes to lose Ward Summoned until October 1999
* Staff of Runes to have 2 charges of Gaze (instead of 5) until October 1999
* Dagger of Symbols to lose its 5 svDisease/svMagic/svPoison until October 1999
* Spear of Warding to lose 5svFire/5svCold until October 1999

Without more specific patch notes it's really hard to say which patch it was. There is also:

Quote:

September 13, 1999
Some Magician Summoned items are now lore items. Items that have turned lore have had other small benefits added to them.

From that it sounds to me like the magical effects were added in September and then again changed in October, but we don't know exactly what the intermeditate changes were

Quote:

Without more specific patch notes it's really hard to say which patch it was.

"I have heard that magician's summoned weapons have gotten an update", posted 5 days after a patch that references magician summoned items being improved.

Okay.

Post from September 14th 1999 describing Sword of Runes with no mention of a proc.

Quote:

7dmg 27dly

Veldra Rae`lynn
lvl 34 magician
Veeshan

Brad Boutwell <bout...@NO-SPAM.sitemaster.com> wrote in message
news:7rmdrl$nfj$1@ionews.ionet.net...
> I am on Erollisi Marr and would like to try the Sword of Runes out. As it
> is summoned (29th lvl Mage spell), I would like to know if there are any
> magicians on Erol. that would be willing to summon it for me. I am
> currently in the Qeynos area, but will travel. I will pay of course...if
> you are willing to summon this for me, please reply or mail me at
> bout...@webzone.TAKEOUT.net
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> --
> Laewedar, Wood-Elf Ranger, 11th Season, Erollisi Marr
>
>
> PS: If you can find someone to summon this weapon for you, put it in the
> bank before camping and it will be there when you log back on...don't know
> if this works with all weapons, but I have heard from several people that
> this one does...
>
>

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....s/1KeKcBF4LlMJ

Another post from August 19th 1999 describing Sword of Runes with no mention of a proc:

Quote:

Ok, since I've seen so many damn posts on people getting ripped off, and
nobody knowing what it is-7dmg 27 delay 1H slash, summoned by a magician.
For some reason the very wise designers at verant don't have it marked as
any way of you to know what you are getting.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....A/QjZVYrGVgDUJ

You are speculating. One of the comments was from BEFORE the September patch and one was around the same day (patch notes were often posted the day before the patch)

There is no ACTUAL evidence as to what summoned item changes happened in September and which happened in October.

What is clear from patch notes is that SOME changes occured on each of those patches, so your recommendations are incomplete at best but also possibly simply wrong.

Only Lore items were adjusted in the September patch.

Sword of Runes is not LORE:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Summoned:_Sword_of_Runes

Dagger of Symbols is not LORE:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Summone...ger_of_Symbols

Spear of Warding is not LORE:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Summoned:_Spear_of_Warding

The Staff of Runes I will admit ambiguity about. It could be either of September/October.

I found a post describing the Staff of Runes as MAGIC but not LORE, back in June 1999.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....Y/1N673Es5Gs8J

So we can say that it changed in the September 13 1999 update. It can be set to that era instead.

Bomp for no overpowered sword of runes until October 1999 :)

Not that I think it needs more evidence but it never hurts.

Here's a full EQ items listing with stats from August 28th 1999 that includes Sword of Runes and other items mentioned above, without their added saves and without the Ward Summoned proc.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....s/8t_rCThq7sIJ

(Be sure to click "show trimmed content" at the bottom of the post)

This list may be useful to others for item research btw.

The Swords of Runes used to proc cancel magic before they change. Quite useful for a solo mage as the pet would debuff your mob so by all means revert this. It was obviously changed to be group friendly.