Coldain Ring 8 Roll: Official Poll
 

There was a disagreement at the ring 8 roll today about the correct roll time, with about half the people saying that the roll should be at the same time as the day before, and the other half saying the roll should be 30 minutes before she pops. Some players cited the wiki link https://wiki.project1999.com/Ring_8_player_agreement as a source of information, but that isn't reliable as anyone can edit the page. As it turns out, GM Menden was eavesdropping in on the conversation! He weighed in, and to paraphrase, he said that there has never really been an official agreed upon rule for the roll that had been approved by any previous GM, and that whatever the majority of players agreed on would be the rule. Someone suggested making a poll on the forum here, and that he could sign off on the result of the poll so there won't be any confusion on the rules going forward.

That brings us here, I'm making this thread for people to post their feedback and the merits of what they think the best system would be. I'm including in the poll the two ways that it has traditionally been done (roll the same time as the day before or roll 30 minutes before her spawn time), as well as a third option that someone mentioned, suggesting to make this roll the same as scout / angry (roll when she pops and everyone present helps with the fight). I'll post my opinion later on in the thread to leave this post unbiased, so please reply with your thoughts about the best rules for the ring 8 roll, and hopefully we can reach a consensus that Menden can make the standard from now on. For the first two options, the caveats would be that you have only 30s to roll from the first roll, and you only have 2 minutes to make your turn in to gloradin when she pops to make sure the timer doesn't get pushed back too much. I'll leave the poll open for 5 days to give people time to post feedback and vote. Please let anyone you see at the ring 8 roll know about this thread.

Just treat the roll like the 3 other rolls: Shady, Angry, Scout. Roll when pops. Like the last 2 listed, everyone helps kill. Keep it consistent

This is how it went when I got my ring 8 but that was about a year and a half ago. It operated the same as scout roll does now and it worked well. I support this method.

Sometimes whole guilds outnumber others present at the roll and, even when randoms don't go in their favor, the majority of their members hang around and assist with the kill. No reason to make them wait AFK for 30 minutes on top of that.

I am super happy we got a gm that is so engaged in everyday life on p99, I hope either roll @gloradin pop or 30 min prior to last pop.

This is exactly how it should go. My experience with Angry and Scout have been very civil and easy. Keep it simple. It only takes 5ish minutes.

This.

The old Ring 8 roll system forced you to roll over an hour before the mob would even spawn and it always pushed the mob spawn further and further back but the roll stayed the same. I have no idea why anyone would like that system over the system used for Scout, and Angry.

I've actually rolled once against only one other person (yes I lost). So it may not always be possible to have everyone help.

My proposal in another thread, where we had the same problem, was to simply allow all rolls up to 30 minutes before the mob spawns. So no matter what time someone *says* the roll should be, anyone can walk up and roll. If it's disputed, anyone who wants can wait around for the mob to spawn to confirm the time and see if a roll was late or valid..

One thing for sure is that it will end the problem of people rolling an hour or more too early. They won't show up just to stand around.

Cant do it pop more often? Its not so classic to random on mob anyway to be honest, or?

The problem with this is people will log off and then just roll on their alts, any system has to have a 30 second max window to roll in, to prevent the same person from rolling on multiple toons.