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Patriam1066 09-03-2019 11:46 PM

Voted on by dying countries full of 3rd worlders and opioid addicts. Time for Augustus

:)

Swish2 09-04-2019 02:04 AM

...and the people voted for a positive change in terms of Brexit. The majority is there, democracy happened. It should have been forced through in under 6 months in 2016.

Tethler 09-04-2019 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Swish2 (Post 2954649)
Add in the failed "freedom of movement" laws, which are good in theory but has unofficially ended up with "if you get into Europe illegally, you're free to move where you like"... its not been good economically, socially or culturally.

I recently went to Holland, Belgium, and Germany for a 1-week vacation. Not having to check about each country for visa requirements or show my passport constantly at train stations was quite convenient, so there's that.

Thrombosis 09-04-2019 03:30 AM

Remoaners: Stop the coup!
Govt: OK, we'll have a general election.
Remoaners: We didn't mean now...

Makes me so angry how our parliament has deliberately made this process so difficult.

Domo 09-04-2019 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Swish2 (Post 2954649)
... and if you take a look at some of their failed policies/outlooks, particularly at what has happened economically to Greece, no shits were given that they effectively bankrupted the country.

As far I know Greece fucked it up all alone and wanted help from the EU, and the EU said it will help Greece if they follow some rules.
Looks like it worked. Greece is stable and growing again.

(sorry about my english)

Mblake81 09-04-2019 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tethler (Post 2954896)
I recently went to Holland, Belgium, and Germany for a 1-week vacation. Not having to check about each country for visa requirements or show my passport constantly at train stations was quite convenient, so there's that.

Convenience has a price all its own.

The USA can't seem to move because it has grown fatter on asian work, meanwhile California has a homeless village.

That's all I will say. It's not my land, country, culture or people over there in Euro.

Wonkie 09-04-2019 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Thrombosis (Post 2954898)
Remoaners: Stop the coup!
Govt: OK, we'll have a general election.
Remoaners: We didn't mean now...

Makes me so angry how our parliament has deliberately made this process so difficult.

it is kinda unfair they won't support an election. i guess they figure an economic meltdown is the worser option than being unfair.

Jimjam 09-07-2019 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Thrombosis (Post 2954898)
Remoaners: Stop the coup!
Govt: OK, we'll have a general election.
Remoaners: We didn't mean now...

Makes me so angry how our parliament has deliberately made this process so difficult.

Honestly, I think the leader of the opposition, Jeremy Corbin, simply doesn't want to be PM. Back when former PM May called a general election he vould have just built his campaign around "I've long been a Eurosceptic so you can trust me to implement Leave, but at the same time I am a labour rep so you can also trust me to maintain the workforce's rights and protect them from the predatory corporations that a conservative Brexit would make them vulnerable to."

He would have picked up many of the conservative leave votes (May voted remain; I have no idea why she volunteered for leadership of the Conservative party other than no one else even stood. Really BoJo should have manned up and stood for leadership on 24th June 2016). He would have stopped the huge number of lavour votes that defected because Labour didn't have a clear mandate on Brexit during that election. He would have even picked up some remain voters under the assurance of fall out from Brexit being mitigated (it's nice being able to opt out of 42+ hour working weeks, etc).

That snap election back then was JC's for the taking if he actually stood up for his past rhetoric.

Now he's showed himself up again, trying to paint BoJo as a tyrant, but when offered the election JC turns it down by moving the goalposts. I understand why JC turned it down, the election was a trap to force through a potentially devestating Brexit (instead of a clean, conciliatory leave) for the sake of deadlines (and maintaining huge tax dodging schemes employed by much of the current government and sponsors). The damage is now done to JC's reputation (and it has taken years of bogus allegations against him for anything to stick).

These two instances show to me JC doesn't want PM.

Infighting in the Labour party (and attacks from Conservative party/media) has tried for years to bring JC down, but in the end JC is going to crucify himself.

Jimjam 09-07-2019 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonkie (Post 2954963)
it is kinda unfair they won't support an election. i guess they figure an economic meltdown is the worser option than being unfair.

Shitting the bed then making someone else take responsibility for it is classic Torrie playbook (ref 'Calling a Referendum then Stepping down from PM', Pigfucker, 2016)

Thrombosis 09-07-2019 12:50 PM

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e-passing-bill

This is what we are reduced to, some our wonderful MPs, probably former ministers too, openly colluding with EU leaders completely undermining our own negotiators. We used to have people hung, drawn and quartered for that!


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