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deadeyedick 03-05-2023 11:31 PM

monk ratios, primary and offhand choices
 
I am currently a level 16 human monk I have researched a bit about these questions and having trouble finding answers to these questions there seems to be some debate.

what is the math to understand a weapons delay to damage ratio?

what type of weapon is best in the main hand ?

1. a higher delay higher damage?
2. lower delay lower damage?

what type of weapon is best in the off hand ?

1. a higher delay higher damage?
2. lower delay lower damage?

when does this change to 2hb and then back to 1hb?

thanks

Jimjam 03-06-2023 04:32 AM

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    Melee & Tank Weapon Damage Cap
Level Range        Weapon DMG Cap
1-9                10
10-19                14
20-29                30
30-39                60
40+                100

At your level its simply a case of comparing your weapon’s dmg to the max dmg by level and switching the dmg to the lower value if thr cap is exceeded and then dividing dmg by delay.

For the very lowest end play there are other considerations such as rounding and from 27 there starts damage bonus but dmg/delay is a decent approximation outside those cases.

Toxigen 03-06-2023 08:00 AM

Just get and use a good ratio 2 hander.

You take a lot less damage.

Snaggles 03-08-2023 12:13 AM

In the low levels it’s a bit more confusing. Damage caps favor fast weapons to like lvl 30. Then its ratio to around 50. Then it’s a combination of ratio and damage bonus.

That said, past like level 30 it’s tough to beat a Peacebringer for 800p on blue or an IFS for around 3500. Really tough. Tstaff holds up solidly to 60.

Bardp1999 03-08-2023 01:29 AM

There is no need for charts and analysis and other bull shit. Peacebringer til Epic, then Epic + SoS(offhand) until raid gear. You're welcome.

Crede 03-08-2023 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bardp1999 (Post 3585754)
There is no need for charts and analysis and other bull shit. Peacebringer til Epic, then Epic + SoS(offhand) until raid gear. You're welcome.

Epic/sos was good like 8 years ago. The answer is always tstaff until Bo staff or better raid weps.

Snaggles 03-08-2023 09:23 AM

Fist/SoS these days is really bad. Most well geared rangers out parse them. There are DW combos that out perform droppable Kunark 2h’s but you won’t find them outside raids. The triple attack and then scaling damage bonus patch did crazy things.

wagorf 03-08-2023 11:42 AM

if you aren't gonna raid, then 2h all the way - forget about dual wield

Andyman1022 03-13-2023 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Snaggles (Post 3585812)
Fist/SoS these days is really bad. Most well geared rangers out parse them. There are DW combos that out perform droppable Kunark 2h’s but you won’t find them outside raids. The triple attack and then scaling damage bonus patch did crazy things.

This is true on low ac/group targets. I feel that epic fist / sos would outperform a lot of 2handers on big AC raid bosses. The other night i was plinking Vyemm for like 40 dmg per hit with my priceless 2hander and decided to try out Mainhand epic fist with priceless in offhand. Didn't parse it ofc but would like to eventually.

Snaggles 03-13-2023 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Andyman1022 (Post 3588230)
This is true on low ac/group targets. I feel that epic fist / sos would outperform a lot of 2handers on big AC raid bosses. The other night i was plinking Vyemm for like 40 dmg per hit with my priceless 2hander and decided to try out Mainhand epic fist with priceless in offhand. Didn't parse it ofc but would like to eventually.

Yea I’m a walking hypocrisy. I still think most two-handers shine these days but if people are actively parsing and trying to push the envelope so be it. My annoyance is people just going with dogma over a span of a few years of patches or using an excel spreadsheet to determine what’s best.

Get your good buffs. Parse. Compare fights. Evolve.

I’ve seen people top parses with an IFS and the “punch trick” and suck with the best gear. Just get in there and get it done :)


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