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Ezalor 03-18-2013 12:30 PM

Petition for permanent IP ban punishment option
 
Does anyone else think it's weak that someone can get caught RMTing or cheating and simply make a new account in 2 seconds and keep playing?

I'm not saying all in-game bans should be IP bans, but the more drastic offenses definitely should. Get caught RMTing or using cheating/third party software should be a permanent IP ban.

/Sign if you agree.

Ezalor 03-18-2013 12:31 PM

Example: Nocturne/Sonaa/Evelinn. He got caught red handed RMTing and he simply just made a new account and now sells Bard power-levels for 2.5k a pull. He'll be more careful to not get caught RMTing this time, and meanwhile he knows that if he does he knows he can still just do the same thing all over.

Tecmos Deception 03-18-2013 12:36 PM

In other news, the death penalty not only deters everyone from committing heinous crimes, but it also never gets used on innocent parties by accident!

Bidoof 03-18-2013 12:37 PM

Only problem I see would be the fluidity of IP addresses. Most people have dynamic IPs. I unplug my modem for 5 minutes, I get a new one assigned to me. Even ignoring that, a really determined person could do a bunch of things: get a new ISP, use a phone tether, connect at a public place, hide behind 7 proxies, etc.

Though I would totally get behind an effort that would permanently ban the types of offenders you list.

Ezalor 03-18-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bidoof (Post 890263)
Only problem I see would be the fluidity of IP addresses. Most people have dynamic IPs. I unplug my modem for 5 minutes, I get a new one assigned to me. Even ignoring that, a really determined person could do a bunch of things: get a new ISP, use a phone tether, connect at a public place, hide behind 7 proxies, etc.

Though I would totally get behind an effort that would permanently ban the types of offenders you list.

Good point. I wonder if there's any type of way to permanent ban in game.

Lazortag 03-18-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ezalor (Post 890253)
Example: Nocturne/Sonaa/Evelinn. He got caught red handed RMTing and he simply just made a new account and now sells Bard power-levels for 2.5k a pull. He'll be more careful to not get caught RMTing this time, and meanwhile he knows that if he does he knows he can still just do the same thing all over.

2.5k a pull? What a ripoff!

Quote:

Only problem I see would be the fluidity of IP addresses. Most people have dynamic IPs. I unplug my modem for 5 minutes, I get a new one assigned to me. Even ignoring that, a really determined person could do a bunch of things: get a new ISP, use a phone tether, connect at a public place, hide behind 7 proxies, etc.

Though I would totally get behind an effort that would permanently ban the types of offenders you list.
While it's true that you can just get a new IP, the point is that these people shouldn't be allowed to keep playing if they've been "permanently" banned. Ie, if they admit to being who they are in game, they should be banned again, and if their guild hides who they are, the guild should be punished too. The only way to get around this would be to cheat and just assume a new identity, but then you wouldn't be able to get PLed back to 60 easily, so it's not that big of a harm. The biggest problem is when people get banned and then use their connections to get PLed again. This has been a huge issue on both servers and it would be great to see it addressed.

Gadwen 03-18-2013 01:07 PM

The intention is legitimate and I do support it, but I honestly doubt IP bans will accomplish much. If someone really wants to get back in they will anyway. Steal a neighbors wifi, tether their cellphone, and hell even get a new ISP. None of those things are hard to do.

Yajirobe Yajipants 03-18-2013 01:10 PM

Just delete the toon. If that's not possible, delevel and strip the toon.

Swish 03-18-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Yajirobe Yajipants (Post 890312)
Just delete the toon. If that's not possible, delevel and strip the toon.

Now we're talking, de-level all characters to 1, stripped, coined and they can start again. Play properly and it can never happen to you.

Ele 03-18-2013 01:24 PM

Let me reset my router.


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