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jammer191 03-23-2013 03:59 PM

Where are the camp rules posted
 
I have someone at a camp saying they are trying to hold the camp for a guildy to get there I tried to explain to him the next physically present person at the camp is the next in line. Is this true and where are the camp rules posted?

Tenlaar 03-23-2013 04:01 PM

Incorrect, the current holder of a camp may hand that camp off to whomever they want.

Zereh 03-23-2013 04:12 PM

From this:

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7. We do not have a rule for how a camp will be handed off to another player. It is recommended the player interested in obtaining a camp work that out with who is on the camp already.

*Example* Player a is on jboots, player b comes and sits and just waits. If player a wants to hand off to his friend rather than player b, he has that right. If player a wants to hold a list and give to the next player on that list, that is also his right. GMs will not moderate that unless player b can prove he was deceived by player a with how the camp would be handed off.

Any deal between players trumps any of these rules so long as all players agree. These rules are here to be a guide to players for what rights they have while in the game. In my opinion this is very similar to what SoE did with camp disputes in game. As Nilbog has said in this thread, in 99 every named spawn in zones would have entire groups at them. If one group was capitalizing on more than one spawn and a second group wanted half or to share and then petitioned, PNP would be enforced and the groups would be forced to share. This is a guide explaining how we would like things to be shared.
Unfortunately you're stuck hoping that the person at the camp ahead of you has a shred of decency. And like the second reply so clearly demonstrates, the odds of that happening are slim. =/

Swish 03-23-2013 04:15 PM

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Frieza_Prexus 03-23-2013 04:17 PM

Camp rules are posted here: http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2653

In particular pay attention to rule #7 which is now obsolete. Which states:

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Originally Posted by OBSOLETE RULE
We do not have a rule for how a camp will be handed off to another player.

The current rule has since developed into the following:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ght=camp+rules

Quote:

Originally Posted by Current Camp Rule regarding handoffs
It is up to whoever currently holds a camp as to who they hand that camp to. Just because you sit and wait does not mean that you get the camp next. The current player can hand the camp to whoever s/he wants to. BUT may not deceive you. If you can prove that s/he deceived you then we can do something. If you can't prove that via Screenshot then we can't help :/

The one exception is the Jade Chokidai Prod for the HS key dropped by the Chancellor in Lake of Ill Omen. That camp uses a strict first in first out rule. I cannot find the quote at the moment, but given that you probably aren't camping it, it isn't terribly necessary.

TLDR: Whoever legitimately possess a camp may hand it off to whomever they so choose.

Edit: Additional confirmation of the current ruleset regarding the hand off of camps can be found here: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...0&postcount=38 from Sirken.

Tenlaar 03-23-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zereh (Post 896684)
And like the second reply so clearly demonstrates, the odds of that happening are slim. =/

You seem to imply that I am somehow a bad person because I posted...exactly what you posted.

SupaflyIRL 03-23-2013 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenlaar (Post 896694)
You seem to imply that I am somehow a bad person because I posted...exactly what you posted.

he quoted the rule you referenced and posted his disagreement with it

you may not be a bad person but you sure are a dumb person


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