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Rhambuk 06-06-2013 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Kagatob (Post 984929)
Why would you compare pedophilia to homosexuality? One is a form of abuse and the other is a lifestyle choice that has 0 negative effects to anyone. They have nothing in common and you should be ashamed of yourself to even try to make such a comparison.

I think he was merely comparing attraction vs choice.

There was a young man that lived in a town ohh 3 or 4 towns away from mine. One day his father walked him and found him in a closet with his dog having sex with her. He claimed he loved the dog and wanted to marry it. What does Homosexuality have to do with pedophilia or both have to do with beastiality? nothing but in all circumstances its either an argument over a matter of natural attraction or choice...

Kagatob 06-06-2013 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhambuk (Post 984961)
I think he was merely comparing attraction vs choice.

There was a young man that lived in a town ohh 3 or 4 towns away from mine. One day his father walked him and found him in a closet with his dog having sex with her. He claimed he loved the dog and wanted to marry it. What does Homosexuality have to do with pedophilia or both have to do with beastiality? nothing but in all circumstances its either an argument over a matter of natural attraction or choice...

It's a ridiculous comparison to compare the 3 at all.

Pedophilia results in child abuse, the child suffers as a result 100% of the time and is non-consensual.

Bestiality results in likely animal abuse, we don't know whether or not the animal enjoys or desires the act (not advocating it, simply stating the fact we don't know) but the perpetrator of such still has no right to subject the animal to such because of a "possibility" existing that the animal will enjoy it. It cannot consent.

Homosexuality (particularly the homosexuality discussed herein) is the mutual love and gratification and satisfaction between two or more consenting adults.

It's disgusting to compare them at all.

Rhambuk 06-06-2013 02:36 AM

yes but there will always be people arguing back and forth "I can't help it I was born this way" or "It's a choice!" because we can't get that deep into the human mind to determine one way or the other. Thats all im saying.

I do agree with you =p

Strifer 06-06-2013 02:43 AM

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Kagatob 06-06-2013 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhambuk (Post 984976)
yes but there will always be people arguing back and forth "I can't help it I was born this way" or "It's a choice!" because we can't get that deep into the human mind to determine one way or the other. Thats all im saying.

I do agree with you =p

Just making sure.

I like your new avatar btw, keep it :)

Rhambuk 06-06-2013 02:49 AM

haha thanks. I'm thinking of starting a guild on red named "Kramerica Industires"

Kagatob 06-06-2013 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhambuk (Post 984983)
haha thanks. I'm thinking of starting a guild on red named "Kramerica Industires"

I would join red for that, no joke. Just don't take the name "Kruuger" ok? :)

Rhambuk 06-06-2013 03:10 AM

I have all of my planned names saved and thats not one of them )

what I'd like to know is, whos the jeezely motherfucker that took the name rhambuk

Daldolma 06-06-2013 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kagatob (Post 984929)
Why would you compare pedophilia to homosexuality? One is a form of abuse and the other is a lifestyle choice that has 0 negative effects to anyone. They have nothing in common and you should be ashamed of yourself to even try to make such a comparison.

i'm beginning to worry about your literacy

the comparison is related to "choice", not to the relative rightness or wrongness. i said literally a sentence later that homosexuality isn't wrong in the first place

the point is to provide an example of a sexual preference that we all can agree is wrong. pedophilia is an example of this. that being the case, whether or not someone chooses to be a pedophile really doesn't matter. even if it is out of their control, it's wrong and they should be held accountable for any actions taken

whether homosexuality is wrong or not is a matter of consternation within christianity. as i've already said, it's clearly not wrong on an ethical or legal level. it's consensual. but if christianity were to deem it "wrong", then to those that agree it is wrong, it wouldn't matter whether it's a choice or not.

that being the case, the whole argument over whether homosexuality is a choice or not is largely beside the point

Kagatob 06-06-2013 03:54 AM

I'm trying to figure out exactly what point it is that you're trying to make then. The only thing I'm getting from this is that you're trying to claim that having the discussion in general is pointless which could be said about any discussion altogether which inherently defeats the purpose of having discussion in the first place.


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