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Splorf22 06-20-2013 12:00 PM

Silverwing and the Scimitar of Lifestealing
 
I have not seen one of these drop in the 3-4 months since I have been in VP with TMO, and I have seen pretty much every other drop.

If I am doing my math right, that is at least 15 Silverwings (including repops), 3 drops each on average, and about a 90% chance not to drop the Scimitar, so 45^0.9 = < 1% chance for 0 scimitars.

Yibz 06-20-2013 12:03 PM

We just had one drop on the 11th of June. Grats Luchino!

quido 06-20-2013 12:09 PM

Isn't the proc broken anyways, because of the hoop nerf?

heartbrand 06-20-2013 12:14 PM

I've seen many of these rot on red

Happyfeet 06-20-2013 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quido (Post 1000971)
Isn't the proc broken anyways, because of the hoop nerf?

Spirit tap is blocked in general in VP because of the hooptaloot. So the scimi doesn't proc there lol. On top of Lifetaps just being gimpified, they should be basically lure.

They are exceedingly rare, however. 11 in 15 months. so 11 out of 60 Silverwings...

06/11/13 Silverwing 1.00
04/19/13 Silverwing 1.00
11/12/12 Silverwing 1.00
11/12/12 Silverwing 1.00
10/16/12 Silverwing 1.00
09/15/12 Silverwing 1.00
07/20/12 Silverwing 1.00
05/26/12 Silverwing 1.00
05/18/12 Silverwing 1.00
01/26/12 Silverwing 1.00
01/09/12 Silverwing 1.00

nilbog 06-20-2013 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splorf22 (Post 1000959)
I have not seen one of these drop in the 3-4 months since I have been in VP with TMO, and I have seen pretty much every other drop.

If I am doing my math right, that is at least 15 Silverwings (including repops), 3 drops each on average, and about a 90% chance not to drop the Scimitar, so 45^0.9 = < 1% chance for 0 scimitars.

It actually has a higher chance on the lootdrop than some of the other items. Bad luck on your part I think.

Quote:

Originally Posted by quido (Post 1000971)
Isn't the proc broken anyways, because of the hoop nerf?

The spirit tap from ivandyr's hoop is blocked in VP. The scimitar was not intended to be the same. Fixed, pending update.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happyfeet (Post 1000993)
Spirit tap is blocked in general in VP because of the hooptaloot. So the scimi doesn't proc there lol. On top of Lifetaps just being gimpified, they should be basically lure.

As stated above, only the hoop tap was intended to be nerfed; the scimitar proc will be fixed with next patch. Lifetaps in general have era-appropriate resists though, to my knowledge. There are other threads about this.

Splorf22 06-20-2013 03:24 PM

I only missed a few but, I guess I missed the ones with it :( Oh well, sorry for wasting your time nilbog

heartbrand 06-21-2013 09:27 AM

Out of curiosity nilbog where did you get your drop rates from for differing items on VP tables? VP wasn't done very much while current so I'm curious as to what source you're using to determine rarity etc

Aeolwind 06-22-2013 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heartbrand (Post 1002172)
Out of curiosity nilbog where did you get your drop rates from for differing items on VP tables? VP wasn't done very much while current so I'm curious as to what source you're using to determine rarity etc

I'm looking into these as I get time/inclination. There are some duplicate drops that shouldn't be there, some drops that may not supposed to be there at all, and some drop rates that need fixing. There are other issues as well.

In the end, I don't think anyone will be pleased.

Except the dev staff, Ele and Nirgon of course.

heartbrand 06-22-2013 11:25 AM

Where do you guys get info on drop rates from tho? It's not as if verant ever released them and you can't go by what players said since it was done so rarely and the loot tables are so large you could have scenarios like this thread where the scimitar appears incredibly rare but is actually quite common.


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