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Stefen 07-14-2013 03:32 PM

51+ bard songs.
 
Post 7-14 Patch, I cannot start a level 51+ bard song if I have a green player targetted. This should not be the case.

If I target a player after I've started a 51+ song, the song remains active and does not stop.

If I have a green con player grouped with me, they receive the effects of the 51+ songs.

Burt 07-14-2013 03:48 PM

Same with group heroism. Won't let me cast if I have a green player targeted.

falkun 07-14-2013 04:52 PM

Aren't bard songs exempt from the 51+ rule because they are always group-only?

SamwiseRed 07-14-2013 05:00 PM

i think its because they moved bard songs to buff window (perhaps changing songs to buffs category)

maybe i dunno

enr4ged 07-14-2013 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefen (Post 1027638)
Post 7-14 Patch, I cannot start a level 51+ bard song if I have a green player targetted. This should not be the case.

If I target a player after I've started a 51+ song, the song remains active and does not stop.

If I have a green con player grouped with me, they receive the effects of the 51+ songs.

Are they doing the check for low-level buffs based on what you have targeted? :eek:

Robdukes 07-14-2013 07:07 PM

Confirmed I couldn't play selo's song of travel because I had a lowbie targeted after trading in the tunnel.

nilbog 07-14-2013 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefen (Post 1027638)
I cannot start a level 51+ bard song if I have a green player targetted. This should not be the case.

Can someone provide classic evidence or more commentary about this? Starting a spell on a lower level should be the case for spells, but I'm not sure about songs, especially if they function properly after casting on a level appropriate target.

kanras will be the one looking into this, but it would be nice to have specifics worked out asap. Could be that songs should be excluded altogether.

Robdukes 07-14-2013 09:03 PM

Does the targets level matter when im buffing myself? I haven't read the info the change was based on but I would think Selos song of travel should be able to cast no matter what when I'm not grouped right?

tacomagradd 07-15-2013 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nilbog (Post 1028015)
Can someone provide classic evidence or more commentary about this? Starting a spell on a lower level should be the case for spells, but I'm not sure about songs, especially if they function properly after casting on a level appropriate target.

kanras will be the one looking into this, but it would be nice to have specifics worked out asap. Could be that songs should be excluded altogether.

I do not know how to provide evidence, but bard songs should be exempt altogether. I even had an issue casting selos song of travel when i had a low level dead mob targeted. There should not be a target check for group buff songs.

I played during classic and bard songs were exempt from this. Thanks,

-Grad

planarity 07-15-2013 03:31 AM

This is also the case for high-lvl self-buffs, for which the target should be irrelevant. For example, I can't cast Demi Lich if I have a low-lvl player targetted.


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