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Syft 09-04-2013 06:03 PM

Nerf Bard AE Kiting
 
Everyday I see a group with Bard AE kiting, pwrlvling noobs up to 50 range, which is fine on red99. But on new server none of this BS should go down, they nerfed bard AE's to 4 targets on live because of this nonsense.

I don't want to see anyone on teams ding 20 lvls a day because they had a bard friend. Bard's can solo lvl with swarming just fine, but I don't wanna see neckbeards with 7 alt's lvl 40 day one because they happened to roll a bard.

and YES I am here to shit in everyone's cool-aid!

runlvlzero 09-04-2013 06:15 PM

Weren't you against getting Highsun nerfed cause bards were seriously underpowered? Or was that Twainz or Dullah.

Syft 09-04-2013 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by runlvlzero (Post 1101681)
Weren't you against getting Highsun nerfed cause bards were seriously underpowered? Or was that Twainz or Dullah.

I was the one asking for highsun to be nerfed, along with unlimited pillar range!

Most of the things I ask for changes on, hurt my classes the most!

runlvlzero 09-04-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Syft (Post 1101684)
I was the one asking for highsun to be nerfed, along with unlimited pillar range!

Most of the things I ask for changes on, hurt my classes the most!

Cool my memory is fuzzy. I kinda think AE kiting should stay in some form, maybe remove the ability to agro more then 16 mobs.

Syft 09-04-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by runlvlzero (Post 1101689)
Cool my memory is fuzzy. I kinda think AE kiting should stay in some form, maybe remove the ability to agro more then 16 mobs.

Unless the Ae is nerfed you'll watch Nihilum have lvl 55's by weeks end on teams server without this mechanic it can't be done.

Mark my Word's, on live this wasn't done as much as it was here, and it's a slap in the face to anyone who is lvling up the right way.

Bardalicious 09-04-2013 06:34 PM

bard AE is classic, get over it. so incredibly easy to fuck a bard over on a kite on pvp anyways. when was the AE nerfed to 4 targets? certainly not during the era this server emulates.

new server starts w/o kunark so we'll be in the karanas for the most part, which.. who cares?

p.s. 2 grp slots left for bard plvl on new box l0l

Syft 09-04-2013 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bardalicious (Post 1101705)
bard AE is classic, get over it. so incredibly easy to fuck a bard over on a kite on pvp anyways. when was the AE nerfed to 4 targets? certainly not during the era this server emulates.

new server starts w/o kunark so we'll be in the karanas for the most part, which.. who cares?

p.s. 2 grp slots left for bard plvl on new box l0l

Like I said IDC about it on red99, but if you allow for it on new teams server, people are gonna be crying about lvl 60 nihilum week 2 of server launch and you really don't want that.

I don't argue for things if they benefit me alone, but argue for the good of the server.

Bardalicious 09-04-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bardalicious (Post 1101705)
new server starts w/o kunark

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Originally Posted by Syft (Post 1101710)
lvl 60 nihilum week 2 of server

wat?

ppl gonna burn through levels thru extreme poopsocking and account sharing anyways. work smarter, not harder imo and make friends with bard(s) ahead of time. i could always use another strong pvper in my grp to defend our pulls during xp sessions on new box, hint hint.

Stinkum 09-04-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bardalicious (Post 1101705)
get over it. so incredibly easy to fuck a bard over on a kite on pvp anyways.

I'm not saying it should or shouldn't be nerfed, but I find this to be a hilarious argument.

I'm a Bard on Blue server, and I got levels 40-44 in a single AE kite (solo) that took me probably 45 minutes to do. Keep in mind, this was on Blue server where there's no XP bonus (unlike Red) and that includes getting out of the miserable hell level that was 40.

Even if PvP was turned on and I got rooted and killed 10 times, the reward is still so disproportionately awesome for any 1 successful AE kite that ganking me repeatedly wouldn't even be a speedbump in my overall XP. I think you know this and are being intentionally dishonest because AE kiting benefits yourself.

Bardalicious 09-04-2013 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinkum (Post 1101718)
I'm not saying it should or shouldn't be nerfed, but I find this to be a hilarious argument. I'm a Bard on Blue server, and I got levels 40-44 in a single AE kite (solo) that took me probably 1 hour to do.

That includes getting out of the miserable hell level that was 40, and on Blue server where (remember) there's no XP bonus. Even if PvP was turned on and I got rooted and killed 10 times, the reward was so great that any possible penalty wouldn't even remotely approach a speedbump in my XP.

I think you know this and are being intentionally dishonest because it benefits yourself.

If you wanted to make the argument that low hp aggro kiting should be nerfed, I could probably agree with it. But to want to bomb the ability of a bard to AE kite simply because they do it better than classic due to connection and hardware improvements is a silly notion.

If that were the case they might as well throttle our connections to emulate 56k so that everyone is affected equally in all aspects of gameplay.

There is nothing dishonest about wanting to preserve one of the major reasons to play your favorite class. It's a moot point, however. How often do they intentionally change mechanics to knowingly deviate away from how they worked on live at this project?


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