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Nizzarr 01-09-2014 04:26 PM

blue raid proposal
 
Log off your characters at the raid target you want, set up a phone relay with everybody else that shares the same goals.

mob spawn, send phonecall to everybody, everybody log in and kill the raid target.

Repeat until satisfaction is acquired.

This should reward the people that spends the most time in game getting ready for raid targets, which should be the one actually getting them.

You're welcome.

Raavak 01-09-2014 04:30 PM

Raiding on Blue is no longer about time and effort.

Morgander 01-09-2014 05:05 PM

Time and effort means being online to play the game if you ask me. If guilds were somehow forced to actually utilize the player resources that they actually had online at the time of a raid spawn in order to attempt to contest it, most would fail miserably.

The very top guilds arguing their entitlement for raid content on this server is akin to the top 1% richest arguing their entitlement in the business world. Of course they're always going to win over the little guy, because they own the Wal-Marts and McDonalds of the economy, and you can't compete with that because nobody else can match their level of financial independence.

If not for the laws the US federal government imposes to protect people from people with too much money, Bill Gates alone could have single-handedly and utterly monopolized all of the computer industry in the known world. We could all be playing this game on 2,000 dollar computers running 4 gigs of RAM because that's how much they may have cost.

More power comes more power. More riches become more riches. It takes money to make money, and it takes raid power to make raid power. The more gear you have for your guild, the more gear you get.

It starts to become very unabalanced after a while, and that's only one of my points. The other is as I previously stated in several threads: That this whole batphone crap is stupid.

Be a real guild like we were on live back between 1999-2001 and make due with what you have logged in when something spawns.

Win that way, don't call 50 other players who aren't even playing the game so they can log in resources you didn't actually have online at the time of the spawn.

And besides, what I believe a lot of this has really been about for quite some time is this notion that there are guilds out there killing raid targets they don't need, just to ensure nobody else can get them.

I mean, that's like getting a Fungi Tunic and then continuing to camp the King for more, just to destroy them, so nobody else can get any.

There comes a time when those at the top truly do begin to feel more and more entitled. It actually happens in the business world and there are numerous studies depicting this mentality. It happens the more successful an individual gets, where they begin to depreciate the value of other people, depicting them as resources and numbers, and excusing all personal behaviors as appropriately quantifiable in the nature that is "business". No longer are negative acts considered negative in these situations, for they twist from immoral acts to just business.

It's hard to see past your own success after a while to remember that you most probably came from nothing, and it's hard to see other people as deserving of anything, even opportunity, when your only motivator in life is to continue to take more and more for yourself.

Confit 01-09-2014 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgander (Post 1266692)
Be a real guild like we were on live back between 1999-2001 and make due with what you have logged in when something spawns.

My guild on live, including during 1999-2001, had a batphone via email, messaging services like AIM, and even phone calls to people who were close enough with each other. It wasn't the same as it is now with today's phones except those of us who had a Blackberry back then. But we still reached out to whoever we could to get more people on if we needed to.

Back then it was less about loot and more about not wanting to miss certain raids that were fun.

Spitty 01-09-2014 05:30 PM

I don't like people playing on my phone.

Request denied.

Velerin 01-09-2014 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nizzarr (Post 1266611)
Log off your characters at the raid target you want, set up a phone relay with everybody else that shares the same goals.

mob spawn, send phonecall to everybody, everybody log in and kill the raid target.

Repeat until satisfaction is acquired.

This should reward the people that spends the most time in game getting ready for raid targets, which should be the one actually getting them.

You're welcome.

hah, I hope you're kidding. According to your wise sage words, you will get more raid targets by logging off your characters, not by spending time "in game".

Fael 01-09-2014 06:16 PM

Guarantee we have more people in our vent and in game actively playing throughout the day.

Quit creating a false reality to support your fragile egos.

Dolic

Spitty 01-09-2014 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fael (Post 1266907)
Quit creating a false reality to support your fragile egos.

Says the guy tethered to a vent channel in order to collect imaginary pixels for your nonexistent avatar in a fake online realm.

Erati 01-09-2014 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitty (Post 1266915)
Says the guy tethered to a vent channel in order to collect imaginary pixels for your nonexistent avatar in a fake online realm.

Spitty spews fire, u better not cross paths w him!

Bones 01-09-2014 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitty (Post 1266915)
Says the guy tethered to a vent channel in order to collect imaginary pixels for your nonexistent avatar in a fake online realm.

a man after my own heart


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