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Ergomas 03-17-2014 07:03 PM

Shrink, Classic and dungeons.
 
Quote:

myriverse View Post
From the EQ newsgroup (alt.games.everquest) on 04/28/2000:
"This is mostly because certain spells, such as Shrink and
Screaming Terror, are set to dungeon-only. And they work in places like
BlackBurrow and Unrest, which are outdoor zones."

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.games.everquest/shrink$20unrest/alt.games.everquest/JfpNOFDleHY/sFsextBkFhMJ

And in another newsgroup thread, dated 01/14/2000:
"Unless all of these tight spots are in dungeons, Shaman Shrink only
works indoors (and in Unrest, which seems to behave as both an indoor
and outdoor zone at the same time)."

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.games.everquest/shrink$20unrest/alt.games.everquest/JlZH2eUBnvU/T14cUad6Aw0J
This discussion started here: http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...93#post1369193


I went to unrest was unable to shrink. I think this is a bug and zone just needs to be flagged as shrink usable.

I am not sure if this is in the zone file itself, but clearly there are other dungeons that are outdoors that need this fix. I believe there is a list in the thread.

Unrest, Cazic, and Karnor's (might just need to be checked).

Shrink should work in ALL dungeons, as it is a dungeon only spell before the change made it usable everywhere.

Thank you for your time.

Ergomas 03-17-2014 09:12 PM

Except Unrest was in fact an exception as found from history (shown above) as well as personal experience.

I know shrink worked there. This is a bug/misconfigured zone. Shrink is a dungeon only spell aka anything flagged as a dungeon (edit here) indoors or out - which everyone agrees unrest is - it should work.

Potus 03-17-2014 09:28 PM

That quote is wrong about Screaming Terror. It never had a dungeon restriction.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eqmaze (Post 1369567)
Shrink is for INDOOR only. Simple rule of thumb for shamans. If you Can SoW then you can NOT shrink. If you Can shrink then you can NOT sow. Only way u can get around this is potions. Not sure about limitations on cobalt bracer.

Shrink is for dungeons. Indoor/Outdoor is a Druid thing.

Tubben 03-17-2014 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eqmaze (Post 1369567)
Shrink is for INDOOR only. Simple rule of thumb for shamans. If you Can SoW then you can NOT shrink. If you Can shrink then you can NOT sow. Only way u can get around this is potions. Not sure about limitations on cobalt bracer.

Shrink is flagged to work Indoor & to work in Dungeons.

MM / Unrest / KC / CT are Dungeons, which are also outdoors.

Shrink *should imho* work in every Dungeon.

Brut 03-18-2014 12:06 PM

http://web.archive.org/web/200107140...e=Shrink&type=

Bottom comment of the page, 12/22/2000.
Quote:

"As to the way that people can be shrunk in non-dungeon zones, this is done with a shrink potion, which allows shrinking to be done in any zone. no, Verant's classification of a dungeon is not very cut and dry, there are a lot of gray areas. My suggestion, cast it, if it doesn't work, that zone isn't what Verant would have you believe is a "dungeon"...
Quote:

"...When I first got my 19th level spells, i spent about two days in Blackburrow playing with this spell, just because it was so much fun."

Ergomas 03-18-2014 04:00 PM

It's a bug because shrink should work in Unrest, MM for sure. I farmed those on my shaman back in the day. I did not use potions for this.

digush 11-21-2023 10:45 AM

I believe the Shrink spell doesn't work in Karnor Caror's currently on blu99 ��
Is Karnors a dungeon or is it an outdoor zone. i am drawing a complex truth table in my mind

Can we get some more feedback on this so we can adhere to classic implementation.

TY


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