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skorge 04-16-2014 12:49 PM

Shaman Rage Line of Spells (Proof)
 
Hey there found proof of what it's suspose to do from a 03/2001 wayback search:

https://web.archive.org/web/20010305...s/level_49.htm

Shaman spell "Rage" (level 49 spell):

100 mana
18m (duration)
+ 51 Dexterity (60 max), +51 Strength, +18 AC, +51 Agility (55 max).
Self only, no spells may be cast for 6 ticks.

Update: looks like it gets changed to the above on december 2000 (release of Velious)

tristantio 04-16-2014 01:44 PM

I too noticed the earlier version also draining mana continually, I don't recall it doing that in classic.

quido 04-16-2014 01:49 PM

Supposedly it was bugged in classic to have just the regen and not the mana drain component - Uthgaard fixed it shortly before Kunark.

Is this really solid proof that there was no mana drain component then? Should probably find more evidence.

skorge 04-16-2014 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quido (Post 1416562)
Supposedly it was bugged in classic to have just the regen and not the mana drain component - Uthgaard fixed it shortly before Kunark.

Is this really solid proof that there was no mana drain component then? Should probably find more evidence.

It NEVER had regen (at least the spell "rage") in classic is the thing; I have no idea why the version on P99 had regen to start with (maybe that's the way it works on Live now?) I played a shaman from 1999-2001 (Vanilla-Velious). I quit EQ during Velious era. I remember using Rage to solo tough mobs/camps. If you were just root rotting mobs you didn't really need it because all it provided was melee type buffs and AC, but if you were planning to take some hits, it actually mattered.

This is 100% real and accurate description of Rage.

Also note the website: The Shaman's Crucible. The #1 Go to website back then for shaman.

skorge 04-16-2014 02:09 PM

If link does not work go to: http://archive.org/web/ and type in: http://www.shamanscrucible.com/ and then click on the spells.

Look at level 49 spells and "Rage" - you can view info on all spells 1-60 here. Rage does not drain mana nor does it add regen.

tristantio 04-16-2014 02:26 PM

Found this tidbit:

http://web.archive.org/web/200105030...ns.asp?Id=1183

Quote:

An upgrade to Fury this spell is a good general stat buff for Shamans increasing their offensive capabilities.

It was changed in December from a mana draining health regen buff to the new pure stat bonus buff.

tristantio 04-16-2014 02:40 PM

Also comments from the page here (please note that ALL comments on the site using Wayback say 1/28/2001 as the post date and is obviously incorrect, see here
http://web.archive.org/web/200106300...?Id=516&Page=2 as well for proof)

Quote:


ANY OTHER BONUS TO THE SPELL, By Zagukahnn (1/28/2001)

I was wondering if there was any other bonus to this spell. I read somwhere that you gain double attack when under the spell. (didn't seem right but need clarification)
HOW 'RAGE' LINE WORKS, By Nobdy (1/28/2001)

This particular spell (rage) takes 45 mana to cast, and it puts a buff icon in your list. As long as the buff is active, you gain str, ac, and faster regen, and any mana you still have left is drained away quite quickly. You *cannot* cast anymore spells (your spell gems are grayed out) until you either cancel this spell or it wears off. Also note that mana regen is impossible while this spell is on. I don't care if you have clarity and a the bard mana song, it isn't gonna happen.

The use for this spell is when you are almost out of mana (you are almost out of mana, so who cares if it drains you empty). You will be amazed at how good of a melee tank a shaman can be with this on. It basically turns a shaman into a berzerking warrior.
NO REPOP, By Gmork (1/28/2001)

your spell slots do not repop to even attempt casting another spell. You just get that "you have not yet revovered"
SOMEONES CONFUSED, By Budaddar (1/28/2001)

This spell drains your mana hoss. Using a mana stone in conjunction with this spell would be useless. The drain this spell has on your mana is obscene and using a mana stone is of no help against the effects of this spell.
DRAGONS, By Dragonman goku (1/28/2001)

wouldn't this be good to stay in there for no absolute reason when taking nagafen Jojo?

skorge 04-16-2014 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tristantio (Post 1416629)

yeah ive looked more myself, the link you posted is from 05/2001 and it says december, as in 12/2000 im assuming? I guess since the comments are bugged (showing the same date/time) we don't really know when they posted them...the Shamans Cruicible info I linked was from 03/2001

I clearly remember camping the Frenzy Impaler with my level 50 shaman in Kedge Keep and having Rage up...and slowing him and casting dots, etc...so it didnt drain my mana, but im not sure if I did that during kunark or velious

tristantio 04-16-2014 02:43 PM

Release dates for expansions:

The Ruins of Kunark (April 2000)
The Scars of Velious (December 2000)
The Shadows of Luclin (December 2001)
The Planes of Power (October 2002)

Given that the spell info for Rage was from the wayback archive dated 05/03/2001 and it references the spell having been changed in December, I would guess it coincides with Velious release.

Daldaen 04-16-2014 03:07 PM

October, 2001

Quote:

Rage

Abj

45

+{57 Str, 16 AC, +20 Regeneration}, -Mana Regeneration

HOG


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