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HawkMasterson1999 05-15-2014 10:18 PM

donal arms + manastone
 
How much hp do you have to have to make complete heal more efficient than donal's vambs with the manastone?

Nocsucow 05-15-2014 10:36 PM

after you get hero and symbol nyltron is when it does best

also buy a HP set

Vayder 05-15-2014 10:38 PM

~1550hps

HawkMasterson1999 05-15-2014 10:41 PM

good stuff. Thanks

Ele 05-15-2014 10:41 PM

Manastone = 60 hp for 20 mana

Donal's Vambs = 200 hp / 0 mana / 12 second cast or 3 manastone clicks per activation 180hp for 60 mana every ~12-13 seconds


Complete Heal = XXXX hp / 400 mana / 10 seconds

To come out even on CH/Manastone you have to use at least 20 clicks or 1200 hp + some buffer so you don't die.

With CH being only 10 second cast time, then you'll need to use at least 4 clicks of the manastone to make it more efficient than Donal's 12 second cast time or 240 hp.

1200 hp + 240 hp = 1440 hp + buffer to gain 480 mana - 400 mana for ch or a net gain of 80 mana

Daldaen 05-15-2014 10:44 PM

Manastone = 60 HP / 20 Mana
Complete Healing = 400 Mana * (1-(200 Spec Alteration/20)/100) = 360 Mana

360 / 20 = 18

18 * 60 = 1080 HP

^ Amount to Break even assuming no fizzles.

Donals Vambraces are 12s and CH is 10s. Due to having to manastone more on CH and be more precise about where you stop, they end up being about the same number of clicks per minute.

Donals Heals 200 HP, roughly 3-4 manastone clicks, about 60-80 mana returned.

You would need 1080+200~ HP to beat Donals Vambrace Manastones. This assumes no fizzles and Specialized 200 Alteration.

Having 1400-1500 makes it about even. I wouldn't really bother with CH until 1800+ HP though just cause of how tedious it is to go all the way down and back up. It is easier to just click vambraces and stone 3 times. Never worrying about low HP aggro if grouping or fizzles if soloing.

thugcruncher 05-15-2014 11:53 PM

just get donals bp

Liia 05-16-2014 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thugcruncher (Post 1455423)
just get donals bp

Donal's BP doesn't make much more efficient for your interest since you have the time to click your manastone to low HP again while you cast the 20secs Donal's BP CH. It is more efficient but not by alot.

Erati 05-16-2014 10:42 AM

sad that Donals arms are nearly as good as Robe of the Spring bah

#druidlife

Tecmos Deception 05-16-2014 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liia (Post 1455828)
Donal's BP doesn't make much more efficient for your interest since you have the time to click your manastone to low HP again while you cast the 20secs Donal's BP CH. It is more efficient but not by alot.

What? How in the WORLD does taking 10 extra seconds per CH cycle, but at the benefit of saving 400 mana on the CH, not make it insanely more efficient? :p


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