so you guys are looking for EQ Minus....
 

I wouldn't have understood it but recently they started giving away free lvl 85 chars with all of the aa's... even if you start from lvl 1, you can automatically get all of the aa's that you meet the requirements for once you lvl up enough. it's optional, yeah, but everyone does it so I can't really group up with anyone :(

other problems I had but could live with include mercs, lack of a death penalty, and gear that caps all of your stats insanely early in the game. oh and leveling so fast that you only need to get through 10 zones b4 being lvl 100.... given all of this nonsense though, I STILL wanted to play with SoE instead of you guys, until the free chars/aa's :(

I was wondering what it would take for you guys to go over to SoE. if they released a new server without the free chars/aa's, no mercs, no crazy gear, and reinstituted a real death penalty, would that be enough? or are most of you on here just b/c you can't live with levels beyond 60 or expansion X? I imagine there was just a final straw for most ppl here, whether it was the mercs, gear, or free aa's... maybe even the Plane of Knowledge was the last straw for some of you, I'm really curious though. so, what made you say, "screw this, I'm going back to vanilla"?

They'd have to make a classic server locked permanently up to velious with classic mechanics.

In short - they'd have to make project 199.

Even then it wouldn't be as good for a few big reasons:
-no two boxing allowed here
-hard stance vs RMT
-hard stance vs cheating

SoE server would be decidedly not classic with hacking, botting, legit boxing, and RMT.

That's why I now play on P1999

wow... I don't think I ever ran into any Sam Deathwalker wannabes, and if anyone was using bots, hacking, or selling anything for real money I wasn't aware of it. then again I don't use any trade chat channels.

what is it about the Shadows of Luclin expansion you hate so much? the mobs, the environment, music, atmosphere, quests, the introduction of aa's, mounts, the nexus, the bazaar? you can't hate ALL of that... the aa's and bazaar are nice at least, right? what would it be, mainly? my guess is the nexus....

Pretty much this. However I would quit P99 for a game that is basically

50%FFXI
49%Classic EQ
1%WoW

.......so this is the forum where ppl just post pics of naked dudes?????? I'm wondering what kind of person decides to bomb this forum with that... SoE loyalists? die-die-hard eq purists who don't even want the KUNARK expansion? I have no sensible theory on this one....

how often does this happen and how long does it take for the mods to get rid of it? (not like I'm offended and necessarily need it to be gotten rid of, nature's nature to me, I don't give a damn)

You're only making it worse.

People need to understand if you don't feed attention to attention whores they go away.

I wasn't even sure that it was just a troll, I thought he might have been trying to say something with the image. even if it was just to say that the thread was "gay." it's either that or he actually intends to shock or offend, but that is a pretty terrible attempt if so, don't you think? at least it put the Beatles's "Getting Better" in my head and there was nothing cringe-inducing about the nudes themselves, like a bad case of herpes or something. try harder next time, troll(?).

While I understand the need for expansions to one-up the previous one, it's really what I don't like about Live EQ. I like all of the additional races they added (especially cats on the moon) and the ease of travel, but the power bloat is just unreal. I look at Live EQ, and I just don't get PCs with 180k HP? I can't even wrap my head around a PC with 18k HP. Some of the added class abilities (after, say, GoD) don't sit well with me. And mercs? WTF?

Pretty much everything you listed except the music. SoL took the fantasy D&D style game I loved and changed the mechanics and made it a Sci-Fi game. It was still an ok game but the magic was gone for me. There is a reason people call it 'Cats on the Moon' here. I actually liked the PoP and LDoN expansions. But by that time it was a completely different game to me.