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Grimjaw 08-13-2014 12:10 PM

ya furor was good

Colgate 08-13-2014 01:20 PM

seems like these low level MR based knockback/DD spells were almost unresistable(damage could be partial'd to hell though)

shock of lightning, shock of blades, furor, brusco's boastful bellow

Mac Drettj 08-13-2014 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Colgate (Post 1574873)
seems like these low level MR based knockback/DD spells were almost unresistable(damage could be partial'd to hell though)

shock of lightning, shock of blades, furor, brusco's boastful bellow


Yumyums Inmahtumtums 08-13-2014 01:32 PM

What about chaotic feedback? I remember hearing that one was nearly unresistable

Haynar 08-13-2014 02:19 PM

Good lord this gets compkicated.

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Nirgon 08-13-2014 02:31 PM

I think what's happening here Haynar is kinda like the ac/atk changes.

Get a good base down then we can find a way to deal with 1 offs? There aren't too many.


For example: you nail down all the fire/cold/magic dd issues.

Then we give you lists of spells by category that should behave differently and what that should be.

IE:
->most issues resolved with base fix.
->We give a follow up of "these magic resist based spells should be nearly impossible to fully resist" and go from there (one off but grouped by behavior)

Technique 08-13-2014 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Yumyums Inmahtumtums (Post 1574882)
What about chaotic feedback? I remember hearing that one was nearly unresistable

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I can usually land chaotic feedback on pc's with 450+ mr, it stops spellcasting and spells, which is why I use it in combination with recant to strip bard buffs/songs
http://www.therunes.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=898
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I chase them with this and constantly stun with Chaotic Feedback so I can score hits. CF hits pretty regularly even if you have 350 magic resist.
http://www.therunes.net/forums/viewt...hp?f=39&t=5942
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Although these days it probably doesn't matter much, but cf used to be a huge agro draw since it has the stun component. (this was great in pvp cause the stun was never resisted)
http://www.therunes.net/forums/viewt...10709&start=50
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At level 65 given ok gear the pally should have sufficient mr to stop near all your spells. No slow, no cripple, no nukes (cept the level 8 one -almost never resisted and interrupts).
http://www.therunes.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3805

Those quotes are all from 2003 onward, but I believe CF had always worked this way. I played an enchanter on SZ in 2001 and never recall it being partialed either. In all the classic spdats I've viewed, the spell is parsed differently than the other enchanter nukes, as a DoT with a 1 tick duration instead of a DD, which may have something to do with that.
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Chaotic Feedback
DoT for between 43 (L8) to 48 (L13) Hit Points (HP) in 1 ticks
Stuns target

Technique 08-13-2014 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nirgon (Post 1574659)
Rend should also have push back like shock of lightning if it does not already here.

Rend has no pushback in any classic (original/kunark/velious) spdat nor even on Live.

Better get that spell file in your head checked.

derpcake 08-13-2014 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Technique (Post 1575067)
Rend has no pushback in any classic (original/kunark/velious) spdat nor even on Live.

Better get that spell file in your head checked.

He posts a lot of misinformation, I decided to put him on ignore.

Go for that and stop quoting drivel :)

Nirgon 08-13-2014 04:54 PM

I know lightning shock shouldn't have it (39) but I was interrupted by rends on live when trying to ice comet less fortunate wizards.

Derpcake has also chosen to assist others in telling lies about the necro healing recourse. I could say the exact same about him.

Not one single reference was ever found to anyone being able to dispel such a low mana heal, amazing. Pretty easy to trace where the turning the bug section into RNF usually starts... especially in this thread.

Given Rend was so rarely used, I'll stop caring.

I posted this and can't find any info on it either....

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Originally Posted by Gigaslash (Post 1568399)
I can also attest to this fact, rains should hit 3 times with an unlimited number of targets in PVP only, PVE had the 5 target maximum limitation so as to not be exploited.

But would this be a big change? J/w.


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