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Teako 08-03-2014 08:53 PM

Is that somehow supposed to refute the point that Sony didn't support in-game gambling because they didn't want to have to raise the ESRB rating because of it?

Shits not classic.

Nips 08-03-2014 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cecily (Post 1562345)
I'd really like to run a casino on my main, but I have a feeling that'll end up with my rep ruined for something I didn't actually do because people kinda hate TMO and maybe me a little.

Straight tunneling is far more profitable and far less douchie, imo

captnamazing 08-03-2014 09:07 PM

Who says there is no PvP on blue?

Zulzephur - Tarew Marr 08-03-2014 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Swish (Post 1562103)



Umm... I'm not sure who started the "Casino" deal on EQ, but I know I was running one in EC tunnels during the Kunark Era, and a little before on Tarew Marr. I know I was the first to have one there, but then like here... scammers started to pop up too often.

Myself Brunzil, and my best friend/neighbor growing up Mebarak had them running pretty much everyday early on, and even later in Bazaar. We even extended them to other servers by trading TM plat for other plat on other servers. Not sure who started them "officially," but we came up with the idea in 8th grade and never seen anyone have one going before.

So yea... it is classic.




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Originally Posted by Adolphus (Post 1562143)
People who gamble 100% know its a scam. They just have money to burn. Same as it's always been. I dare anyone who doesn't know its a scam to speak up on the forum. It's like people who know that cigarettes will give you cancer ahead of time, yet still choose to smoke and then get cancer. Then they complain that they got cancer. It's just human nature to be stupid and gamble.

It's wrong for the GM's to waste even 1 second on this IMO.


Wrong.

There are legitimate people who have ran them before, and will continue to.

Also, just because one smokes, doesn't guarantee you will get cancer... just as on EQ and gambling; it's not a guarantee you will get scammed. Both though are pretty high, and shouldn't risk either to be honest.

Nocsucow 08-03-2014 09:55 PM

we had a casino on bertoxx... then SoE put in there own casino during luclin so dont say it aint classic just because its wasnt on your server

Cecily 08-03-2014 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nips (Post 1562443)
Straight tunneling is far more profitable and far less douchie, imo

I don't think it's douchie at all, and it's actually entertaining compared to watching auction text. I ran quite a few casinos on Bertoxx and lost a ton of cash to others as well. I think having reputable casinos to gamble from is something our server is sorely lacking. I'd personally feel better knowing that the plat I'm betting is going to a real character with a reputation, instead of a generic lv 1 here please steal my money toon.

Rais 08-03-2014 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Teako (Post 1562431)
Is that somehow supposed to refute the point that Sony didn't support in-game gambling because they didn't want to have to raise the ESRB rating because of it?

Shits not classic.

People on live ran casinos. Hell even in luclin they did the golden ticket loto.

Portasaurus 08-03-2014 10:23 PM

imho casinos are an important part of reinforcing the bustling "busy market" environment which contributes to immersion levels for TunnelQuest

not even joking

Nips 08-03-2014 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cecily (Post 1562506)
I don't think it's douchie at all, and it's actually entertaining compared to watching auction text. I ran quite a few casinos on Bertoxx and lost a ton of cash to others as well. I think having reputable casinos to gamble from is something our server is sorely lacking. I'd personally feel better knowing that the plat I'm betting is going to a real character with a reputation, instead of a generic lv 1 here please steal my money toon.

I ran casino on live too for a month or so. I realized pretty fast from doing it that 1 percent of my profits would come from casual folks and 99 percent of my profits would come from a very select group of people who clearly had gambling issues (and probably suffered from rl issues like depression and such). I didn't lose any sleep over it because obviously its just a game, but definitely wasn't something for me. And I do agree, it is more entertaining and easier than EC tunneling.

Zulzephur - Tarew Marr 08-04-2014 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nips (Post 1562542)
99 percent of my profits would come from a very select group of people who clearly had gambling issues (and probably suffered from rl issues like depression and such). I didn't lose any sleep over it because obviously its just a game.


Wait wait wait... how are you drawing this assumption? Even as a psychologist, I would never had drawn that conclusion out because someone handed me X,XXX amount of pixels on a video game.

Were they extremely upset when losing? Did they spam PM you with hated texts? Would they sit in the corner writing sad poetry and listening to Alanis Morissette records?

I don't understand. I ran casinos since the beginning, possibly the first / one of the first, but most the people had fun; win or lose. It's just pixels in the end, what people do with them is their choice as long as you aren't violating any rules, so I don't understand how someone who uses a casino in-game has gambling issues in real life, or is ultimately in a state of depression. At that rate, they might as well have a drinking addiction as well. Most the time, they have too much of it to even care about.


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