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xblade724 09-19-2014 03:22 AM

Charm not properly charming NPC *or* PC pets
 
Charming PC **OR** even NPC pet "will not take hold".. is this a bug? Doesn't seem right.....

Nirgon 09-19-2014 11:43 AM

It should insta gib summoned pets if it lands.

Should not hit players.

xblade724 09-19-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Nirgon (Post 1619173)
It should insta gib summoned pets if it lands.

Should not hit players.

Right (gib = give? lol) --

* Charm NPC/PC pet, nothing happens (spell will not take hold)
* Charm NPC pet owner, success + owner's pet suicides
* Charm PC pet owner, nothing happens (spell will not take hold).

Charming the NPC pet's (not their masters) from either a NPC or PC will fail due to "protection". I believe this is not correct: You should be able to charm NPC/PC pets, right? Like a shadowman npc's necro pet, or a real player's mage pet?

Nirgon 09-19-2014 12:10 PM

Gib = insta kill

Bards on RZ insta killed mage epic pets all da time :P

Puppet strings etc should do this too, not just bard charm

And on the other hand... bard chants/denon's etc should be very easy to resist

xblade724 09-19-2014 12:23 PM

WOW that's really interesting... so if I charm the pet itself = insta kill hm?

I suppose it's two things:
1) Currently a bug since nothing happens when you charm pets themselves ~ need to remove that "protection", almost like pvp protection
2) Freaking awesome

Nirgon 09-19-2014 12:26 PM

Well don't get too excited all at once

A summoned pet with an MR buff was nearly magic immune if it didn't get tashed/dispelled. This worked out of the box on the Lucid Vision server years ago for some reason.

xblade724 09-19-2014 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nirgon (Post 1619245)
Well don't get too excited all at once

A summoned pet with an MR buff was nearly magic immune if it didn't get tashed/dispelled. This worked out of the box on the Lucid Vision server years ago for some reason.

Hmm, it's not that it's getting resisted though, it's just plain "not working". Like, "The spell will not take hold" or something like that, as if I cast a damage song on an OOR person.

High resists is cool -- It would be fun to just have a "chance" of that happening. As long as *something* can be at least attempted~

slightly off topic, but resists Q: I remember on pvp, they made it so that even if you have 10000MR, there would always be a very small % of something landing no matter what (never 100% blocking) from pure luck.. does this apply here too?

Vandy 09-19-2014 12:38 PM

You can charm an NPC's pet once the owner is dead. If the NPC is still alive then the charm will fail as it already has a master.

Nirgon 09-19-2014 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by xblade724 (Post 1619255)
Hmm, it's not that it's getting resisted though, it's just plain "not working". Like, "The spell will not take hold" or something like that, as if I cast a damage song on an OOR person.

High resists is cool -- It would be fun to just have a "chance" of that happening. As long as *something* can be at least attempted~

slightly off topic, but resists Q: I remember on pvp, they made it so that even if you have 10000MR, there would always be a very small % of something landing no matter what (never 100% blocking) from pure luck.. does this apply here too?

Had an even con pal on live fully resist a conflag when he was on a CR (no buffs/gear).

Don't think that can happen here.

Grimjaw 09-19-2014 12:56 PM

sounds like we need to implement some classicness over here


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