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brecon 12-02-2014 09:42 AM

Bard instruments/clickes in Velious
 
First time in Velious - what do we have to look forward to? Any Bard toys to get excited about?

Thinking more about Bard toys akin to melodious truncheon or orb of tishan that really add to bard utility, rather than more general melee stat gear

Daldaen 12-02-2014 09:56 AM

Drum of the Beasts is the #1 must have.

It's primary equipable, best percussion instrument in game. Can run super fast with a resist shield in secondary.

Come late Velious can offhand the epic and primary drum for maximum useful mods on raid fights. Can swap in Lyran's for dat HP Regen if necessary.

falkun 12-02-2014 11:42 AM

Lute of the Howler
Mask of Tinkering
Flayed Barbarian Hide Mask (once illusion added)
Dald has already mentioned the Drums of the Beast
New haste proc daggers...Siren Song and Nature's Melody
Primal Velium weapons (although bards should be way down on the list for those)

IMO Chestplate of Vindication

Daldaen 12-02-2014 12:07 PM

Ah yes Lute of the Howler is also good cause primary slottable. The Clicky is 40% haste but that's useless for a bard with epic really.

But if you're a VP keyed bard, Lyran's is a better mod and stat lute that is primary slot usable.

Gnome illusion mask should die in a fire, gnomes are the worst.
Barbarian illusion mask is 10 months into Velious and getting AoW down is a feat to say the least.

zanderklocke 12-02-2014 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by falkun (Post 1697717)
Lute of the Howler
Mask of Tinkering
Flayed Barbarian Hide Mask (once illusion added)
Dald has already mentioned the Drums of the Beast
New haste proc daggers...Siren Song and Nature's Melody
Primal Velium weapons (although bards should be way down on the list for those)

IMO Chestplate of Vindication

I think I might like Breastplate of Eradication better: http://wiki.project1999.com/Breastplate_of_Eradication

Also, is Nature's Melody from Tunare actually a clickie rather than a proc? Seems like there is debate on the wiki about what version we will get; I think it was changed to a clickie later. When playing around on a god-mode server, it was a clickie that casted. (FYI you linked incorrectly to it. ;))

Workshop35 12-05-2014 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by zanderklocke (Post 1698226)
I think I might like Breastplate of Eradication better: http://wiki.project1999.com/Breastplate_of_Eradication

Also, is Nature's Melody from Tunare actually a clickie rather than a proc? Seems like there is debate on the wiki about what version we will get; I think it was changed to a clickie later. When playing around on a god-mode server, it was a clickie that casted. (FYI you linked incorrectly to it. ;))

When I had it on live it was clickie

falkun 12-08-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by zanderklocke (Post 1698226)
I think I might like Breastplate of Eradication better: http://wiki.project1999.com/Breastplate_of_Eradication

Also, is Nature's Melody from Tunare actually a clickie rather than a proc? Seems like there is debate on the wiki about what version we will get; I think it was changed to a clickie later. When playing around on a god-mode server, it was a clickie that casted. (FYI you linked incorrectly to it. ;))

Vindi BP was a lot better when resists weren't capped at 255, but its still vastly easier to obtain than Statue BP (8hr or 12hr vs. 7day?). Remember also that Statue BP is arguably BIS for the tank classes, so tons of competition and bards will be way down on the list because of our lesser need for AC and raw hps.

Also, Nature's Melody on wiki is correct, its exact same proc as NTOV dagger until it gets upgraded later in the timeline (Jan/8/2002) to a clicky. See the Nature's Melody discussion page for details. There was never a "debate" on the wiki, Ravhin imported the original item from Allah's, and then I updated it and provided supporting documentation on the discussion(talk) page. If you can find information that's better than mine, I'm all ears.

falkun 12-08-2014 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Daldaen (Post 1697787)
The Clicky is 40% haste but that's useless for a bard with epic really..

I didn't even notice the haste, its looking like a badass werewolf that matters.

Daldaen 12-08-2014 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by falkun (Post 1706722)
I didn't even notice the haste, its looking like a badass werewolf that matters.

Honestly... The real value of the lure, beyond being primary usable for non-VP keyed, is that the illusion + faction song make you non-KoS in Velketors given you never get faction hits from Velk or Lord Bob.

Can chain kill spiders and be dubious still. Very useful for a puller or corpse recovery.

falkun 12-08-2014 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Daldaen (Post 1706798)
Honestly... The real value of the lure, beyond being primary usable for non-VP keyed, is that the illusion + faction song make you non-KoS in Velketors given you never get faction hits from Velk or Lord Bob.

Can chain kill spiders and be dubious still. Very useful for a puller or corpse recovery.

How does that interact with corpse dragging? Or does the aggro only apply when dragging near the 3 factions (which are not represented in Velks)?


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