Holocaust welcomes help from all. Isn't the first time Azrael has held their head in shame, picked up an alt and went to work for the enemy. There is a reason why Azrael goes from 5-35 the day a super power can't raid pixels for 1 day. Azrael is just a pool of players with a sickness beyond all others on this server.

Slathar has a fun sort of sickness though.

Truth is I didn't leave Holo because I had my fill of pixels, or got mad over a loot call, or even disliked anyone in Holo.

I left because I was running around PvPing mostly alone, with little to no support from the guild. Allot of those guys just don't want to go around PvP'ing and that's fine it's just not there thing.

But God's Work does like to PvP and allot of those guys do want to run around PvPing so it just seemed like a better fit for me. It's really as simple as that.

Case closed.

Nothin' wrong with that. But people have left Holo without one of the top 20 most viewed threads in RNF history being created about it though.

NOPE you want to change the rules to make it so the guys who only want to RAID are the pvper's. If you really were a PvPer how come you never ran around pvp'ing AFTER you got some really great gear?

Look at your History Hate and then Nihilum these are the two guilds someone would seek out if they wanted pixels without having to fight for them. That's about as blue as you get on a red server.

This thread is bad on so many levels.

I agree

Kergan still has shit gear. Motherfucker had me making him diamond gear 2 years into Nihilum.

Before I was in Hate on SZ, I was in Nine. 10-12 dudes doing nothing but PVPing for months, even taking out guilds 10x our size on our own faction and destroying them so hard they sac'd their ogre SK guildleader down to level 46 from 60.

On RZ I played in The Begotten, one of the better PVP guilds ever to exist there. Again, 10-12 dudes running around attacking guilds 5x our size and winning.

I've put my time in PVPing in EQ. But one thing I have never done is run around as some gank class and kill people "in town or running between places" because that to me is a stupid waste of time. I'm not saying you are not a pvper because of it though, to each their own. You're the only one coming in here calling people blues and "non pvpers" for not playing this game the way you think it should be played.