done~

The only reason rogue epic is class defining is because you can buy one at level 1 and it changes the class having access to your epic at level 1.

Praise MQ sellers and twinks!

Still waiting, still curious.

According to wiki, the effect is worn? Is there a min level on this, or would it apply while worn to a level 1 for example?

lvl 1

You're aware that the proc lasts for 2m30s right?

Melee until it procs (and it procs a lot) then switch to instruments to provide the best buffs possible.

and not because it's one of the only 15 damage (or higher) piercing weapons available for rogues in the game!

Efreeti War Spear is 15!

too rare. and slower than RB.

Gunthak Harpoon too clunky. and slower than RB.

the other two are actually better than RB but are velious raid drops.

The rule here to remember is that guardian rhythms (percussion) will stack with any one of the other rhythm songs or any one of the other psalms (singing only). with only drums there is no point in using the psalms as they wont be modified

Drums alone let you add any two resists plus magic by 83 plus magic by an additional 83 using guardian rhythms. the combinations are:

83CR/83FR/166MR
83DR/83PR/166MR
153MR

The problem here is that i dont know of any targets that use two different elemental type AEs. its always one elemental type or one elemental type plus magic (fear usually). so at least one of those resists in any of the combinations is not serving a purpose unless you are doing something like fighting two different element dragons at the same exact time.



The epic allows you a lot more freedom to tailor your resists targetting the specific situation when used along with the drums. Use the epic for the Psalm songs and the drums for the Rhythms. The combinations are:

125CR/83MR
125FR/83MR
125DR/83MR
125PR/83MR
208MR

Now you can really boost a second resist depending on what the target is and get groups to 255 in both needed resists a lot easier. MR is pretty easy to max with GMR and modest gear and 83 from bard song. its usually getting whatever second needed resist to max at the same time where it gets tricky. Epic makes this much more realistic.

And on targets where only one resist is necessary, drums do not even come close to epic in buffing any single resist



So no, drums are not the answer for the best resists. They reach their full potential when paired with the epic

These figures were used with a level 60 bard with an epic and a selos drum

And this is only addressing what the epic does for the resist lines

This thread is definitely wrong and silly, Cecily.

Ok guys here, if you change the shaman epic to provide a slow instead of what it does now, you'd see 100% less shamans than you do now.

Ergo the class is defined by its epic.